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However Mary is not divine. Just a good person found worthy of honor. How could it be any different?
Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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Catholics ARE NOT Christians.
There are far to many differences between the Biblical Church and the catholic church for the catholics to be God's Church.
The catholic doctrines aren't in the Bible, Why do you think they come against Sola Scriptura?.
the vatican has openly stated all religions worship the same God.
The Pope unifies all the world's religions into a ONE WORLD Religion - YouTube
The Bible and the Greek Bible texts prove that Mary had other children.
Catholics twist the scripture and build false doctrines that aren't in the Bible.
"Mary being an ever virgin", is just one of their false doctrines.
He said we are all seeking the same God. That's been a Christian belief for a long time. Look at CS Lewis, John Wesley, Zwingli, Erasmus, Augustine, and Ignatius of Antioch.
God warns of the dangers of adding to His word,[What is that if it's not Sola scriptura]??.
The Bible says if you add to God's word, You are arguing with God, And you are found to be a liar.
[What's that if it's not sola scriptura].
So, All catholics are arguing with God, And He calls them liars.
The catholic doctrines are added to God's word, As you don't find them in the Bible.
If not sola scriptura, What else is there??.
If a doctrine goes against the Bible, then by definition it is heresy and Satanic. Many Catholic doctrines fit this description.
We are very close to One world religion. This is happen in Indonesia. And it is popular now. Happen every where. We are very close to tribulation. And who behind this event is more likely the Antichrist candidate.
Islam and assembly of God church warship together
Look Like a catholic priest involve (Father Budi)
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A Java Tribune reporter reports Prianggoro and M Radlis
Song of Peace 3 event at the Church of Jesus Christ Church Pringgading lasting vibrant and gayeng. The entertainers and spectators from various religions blend into one.
"DIVINE yes yes Divine Divine. Divine taubatan qoblal mamati .." poem was Qasidah Islamiyaah loud and melodious sound of the courtyard of the Church of Jesus Christ Church Pringgading, Semarang Central, Tuesday (10/29/2013) night.
Maiden song "O Divine Divine" of the group Tambourine El Ibrahim Boarding School Ibrahimyah. The singer of them, Edi Purwanto (22), with a poem comfortable calling in the church yard.Even so Zainul Haq (25), who desperately beating rebananya.
Invisible awkward though the game was shown in the church yard."We are delighted to be performing in front of all the people, not just Muslims alone.'s Even more to know how to make the pain of being in harmony with other people," said Zainul, the Tribune Java.
Tambourine group El Ibrahim was among a number of groups that appear in the event Song of Peace 3 at the Church of Jesus Christ.There are still a number of other performances from a variety of people, both Muslim, Protestant, Catholic, Hindu, Mother, and Confucianism.
The community blend in, not separated by religion. Tambourine group that came to the church after evening prayers in a mosque run.
Semarang Cathedral Church Pastor, Father Aloysius Budi also helped sing two songs of his creation. Song "My Heart At Thy Peace" and "I'm Happy Because You Loved Me," as a result of reflection Romo Budi that peace is a blessing from God.
Through song, the melodious sound of Father Budi told at once invites the public to come to terms."Every person, regardless of their religion, misses the blessings of peace. No religion teaches hatred, and division," Romo said Budi.
Romo Budi appreciation of Peace Song of organizing activities with the theme
( Romo is Indonesian word for Catholic priest)
"Building cohesion and closeness between people" is. According to him, there are many ways to build a dialogue to strengthen togetherness. Among these works dialogue, a dialogue of life, and theological dialogue.
"While this event is an art and cultural dialogue involving the masses. To me, this is something extraordinary because it uses a pathway of culture, art and music as an entry point to build harmony," said Father who is also the Chairman of the Commission on Interreligious Relations and confidence Archdiocese Semarang.
Collaboration Vocal Group of the Church of Jesus Christ with music Gamelan Orchestra leader Kiai Kanjeng Emha Ainun Najib (Cak Nun) also helped entertain the audience. Exercise time that passes over it all night between two groups presenting songs Alu Sia.
Pastor of the Church of Jesus Christ Pringgading as organizers, Rev. DR Indrawan Eleeas states, harmony between people of the nation needs to be built as well as possible.
"The Indonesian people need to strengthen the unity and integrity of the nation to be able to build world peace," said Indrawan.
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Exactly as Paul said, to follow the TRADITIONS given by written word and by mouth. It is Scripture AND the history/tradition handed down by the Holy Spirit through the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. Deny and accuse us of arguing with God, but you will find that there has been only one church down through the centuries. There is salvation outside of that church, but Not outside of Christ. That is Canon law of the Roman Catholic Church.
Continue your rage towards your brothers and sisters. We forgive you.We are very close to One world religion. This is happen in Indonesia. And it is popular now. Happen every where. We are very close to tribulation. And who behind this event is more likely the Antichrist candidate.
Islam and assembly of God church warship together
Look Like a catholic priest involve (Father Budi)
Rebana Pesantren Ibrahimyah Bergema di Gereja Isa Almasih
article.wn.com/.../Rebana_Pesantren_Ibrahimyah_Ber...
T
this is the translation:
Pesantren Ibrahimyah tambourine echoed in the Church of Jesus Christ
RELATED CONTENT
MORE NEWS
Tempo
TRIBUNnews.com
Merdeka.com
A Java Tribune reporter reports Prianggoro and M Radlis
Song of Peace 3 event at the Church of Jesus Christ Church Pringgading lasting vibrant and gayeng. The entertainers and spectators from various religions blend into one.
"DIVINE yes yes Divine Divine. Divine taubatan qoblal mamati .." poem was Qasidah Islamiyaah loud and melodious sound of the courtyard of the Church of Jesus Christ Church Pringgading, Semarang Central, Tuesday (10/29/2013) night.
Maiden song "O Divine Divine" of the group Tambourine El Ibrahim Boarding School Ibrahimyah. The singer of them, Edi Purwanto (22), with a poem comfortable calling in the church yard.Even so Zainul Haq (25), who desperately beating rebananya.
Invisible awkward though the game was shown in the church yard."We are delighted to be performing in front of all the people, not just Muslims alone.'s Even more to know how to make the pain of being in harmony with other people," said Zainul, the Tribune Java.
Tambourine group El Ibrahim was among a number of groups that appear in the event Song of Peace 3 at the Church of Jesus Christ.There are still a number of other performances from a variety of people, both Muslim, Protestant, Catholic, Hindu, Mother, and Confucianism.
The community blend in, not separated by religion. Tambourine group that came to the church after evening prayers in a mosque run.
Semarang Cathedral Church Pastor, Father Aloysius Budi also helped sing two songs of his creation. Song "My Heart At Thy Peace" and "I'm Happy Because You Loved Me," as a result of reflection Romo Budi that peace is a blessing from God.
Through song, the melodious sound of Father Budi told at once invites the public to come to terms."Every person, regardless of their religion, misses the blessings of peace. No religion teaches hatred, and division," Romo said Budi.
Romo Budi appreciation of Peace Song of organizing activities with the theme
( Romo is Indonesian word for Catholic priest)
"Building cohesion and closeness between people" is. According to him, there are many ways to build a dialogue to strengthen togetherness. Among these works dialogue, a dialogue of life, and theological dialogue.
"While this event is an art and cultural dialogue involving the masses. To me, this is something extraordinary because it uses a pathway of culture, art and music as an entry point to build harmony," said Father who is also the Chairman of the Commission on Interreligious Relations and confidence Archdiocese Semarang.
Collaboration Vocal Group of the Church of Jesus Christ with music Gamelan Orchestra leader Kiai Kanjeng Emha Ainun Najib (Cak Nun) also helped entertain the audience. Exercise time that passes over it all night between two groups presenting songs Alu Sia.
Pastor of the Church of Jesus Christ Pringgading as organizers, Rev. DR Indrawan Eleeas states, harmony between people of the nation needs to be built as well as possible.
"The Indonesian people need to strengthen the unity and integrity of the nation to be able to build world peace," said Indrawan.
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Pesantren Ibrahimyah tambourine echoed in the Church of Jesus Christ
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I hope you not misunderstood me brother. I love my catholic brother and sister, that is why I tray to bag you to make deep research if catholic is really in Christ side.
I believe you in Christ side, and you love the Lord. But Vatican hidden agenda is not your agenda. If you know the true agenda of Vatican, I am sure you going to leave catholic and come to the real Jesus.
The Biblical, "TRADITION", is the WORD OF GOD, Either by letter, spoken or the OT scriptures.
God calls you a liar, For adding to His word.
You do argue with God, God says we are saved by grace through faith, NOT BY WORKS lest any man shall boast.
And catholics say, "No God, we are saved by faith and WORKS".
God says there is only one heavenly mediator.
Catholics say, "No God, there is Mary and all the saints".
God says Mary had children.
Catholics says, "No God Mary was always a virgin"..... Need I go on?.
There is only one Church, The body of Christ, And Catholics aren't in the body of Christ.
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Donkeyfish07
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Matthew 15 is appropriate here
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1Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. 3But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? 4For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 5But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 6And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 7Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
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1Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. 3But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? 4For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 5But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 6And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 7Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
The only time faith alone is used in the bible is when James said we are not saved by faith alone.
There is only one mediator between man and God and it is Jesus. That does not preclude the possibility that the saints in Heaven pray for us. What Jesus doesn't want people praying in Heaven?
There is no definitive evidence that Mary had other children, since the word in Greek that are translated as brothers and sisters in the NT are actually the same word used in the Septuagint, the Greek OT, to describe Lot as Abraham's nephew. If Mary had other children, why would Jesus give her to John and the disciples to take care of her?
James didn't say we aren't saved by faith alone.
James wasn't talking about works for salvation.
Jesus is the only mediator , And the Bible doesn't say Mary or the saints pray for us, or we can pray to them.
So I don't know how you can build your doctrine on it.
There is Biblical and Greek evidence that Mary had other children.
I can show you proof that Mary had other children.
The Greek word for Brethren, is "Adelphos", It can mean kinfolk or cousin or spiritual brethren.
But you have to put "Adalphos" in it's right context, And I can show you that in the context of Jesus brothers, It means children from the same womb, proving that Jesus had brothers and sister, And Mary had other children.
I can also show you that the Bible and the Greek prove that Mary wasn't always a virgin.
The OT Hebrew word for "Nephew", Is Banim", The NT Greek word is, "Ekgona".
They are completely different from Brothers "Adelphos" and sisters "Adelphe".