A mother does not have to be a wife to be a mother. Nor prayed to or worshiped.
So what?
Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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So what?
If you believe that Jesus is God then you have to believe that Mary is the mother of God.
Or you are denying the divinity of the virgin birth of Jesus to his mother Mary and Father, God.
Or you are denying the divinity of the virgin birth of Jesus to his mother Mary and Father, God.
Please Mary did not give birth to God. Mary was only the vessel through which God prepared a body for Himself. Mary had nothing to do with the event save to surrender herself to be used of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
No, she is not the wife of God anymore than we are. But realize, God created the woman who would be His mother. She gave flesh to His divinity. She did not fear the angel, and said, "Fiat!" God created her to be His mother. She was not some simple tool, but the woman who bore, bathed, watched, cared for, cried for, loved, and cuddled the Lord. Maybe we Catholics go too far in your eyes, but to us, protestants don't even seem to honor or have any love for the mother of Christ, who was to be called blessed throughout ALL the generations.
She was more than a vessel, what a cold word. Christ called her, "woman" as Adam called Eve woman. Christ was the new Adam, who do you think was the new Eve whose offspring would crush the head of the serpent? We believe Mary is the mother of the Church, because she was the mother of the King. The mother who was foretold to Eve. The Ark of the New Covenant, the woman of Revelation 12. She is not God. She cannot perform miracles. But she is blessed, most blessed of all womankind.
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That is right. Mary gave birth to Jesus, who is the Son of God, not God.
Mary is the mother of the Son of God.
And God is the Father of the Son of God, Jesus.
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Linda70
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What a round about and subtle way of calling Mary the "Mother of God"....she was not the "Mother of Christ", she was the "Mother of Jesus" (His humanity....not His deity) She is also not the "mother of the Church". The "Church" has no "mother". Christ is the Rock upon which the church is built. The church belongs to Christ ("I will build my church"). This means that Christ is the sole Head of the church. He has given this position to no man, not even Peter and his so-called successors.
Mary is not the "second Eve", nor is Mary "The Ark of the New Covenant, the woman of Revelation 12." The woman of Revelation 12 is the NATION OF ISRAEL, not Mary! There is not one mention of Mary in the New Testament epistles from Romans to Revelation. Yes, Mary was blessed above other women to have had the privilege of bringing the Savior into the world, but this allows no foundation for calling Mary the Mother of God, Queen of Heaven, Mediatrix, etc.
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Linda70
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Correction in my previous post (#946): I said that Mary was "blessed above other women", but I was incorrect in that statement. In Luke 1:42, it says this about Mary:
Luke 1:42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
The only place it says that a woman is "blessed above all women" is in Judges 5:24...and that woman wasn't Mary, it was Jael, the wife of Heber, the Kenite:
Judges 5:24 Blessed above women shall Jael the wife of Heber the Kenite be, blessed shall she be above women in the tent.
Luke 1:42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
The only place it says that a woman is "blessed above all women" is in Judges 5:24...and that woman wasn't Mary, it was Jael, the wife of Heber, the Kenite:
Judges 5:24 Blessed above women shall Jael the wife of Heber the Kenite be, blessed shall she be above women in the tent.
So says your tradition that dates back five hundred years. While ours dates almost two thousand. That's the difference. That's the only difference that continues. We acknowledge tradition, we hold some as sacred, but Protestantism denies tradition on one hand, and yet continues to spread it's tradition. I'm not judging mind, it is just, let's call a spade a.spade.
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Linda70
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Mary is never called the `mother of God.' While Mary was the mother of Jesus as a man; the eternal Son of God had no beginning (Micah 5:2; John 1:1). Mary cannot therefore be called the mother of God, and is never so called by Bible writers.
Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Read this article by the late Dr. Henry M. Morris of ICR (When God Became Man). It will demonstrate that the Incarnation of Jesus Christ was totally and completely of God, from beginning to end....and that it was impossible for Mary to be the "mother of God/Christ". God is eternal... He has NO MOTHER!
Jesus is never called God. Jesus cannot therefore be called God,
and is never so called by Bible writers.
Instead of making all these false accusations as if you were someone of importance.... How about you back 1 of them up with scripture.
One thing that amazes me about these Christian web sites.
They make these claims and never prove NOTHING and act as if what they said is as if God said it.
They make these claims and never prove NOTHING and act as if what they said is as if God said it.
That is not what is written in my bible.
Matthew, Chapter 16
13:When Jesus came into the coasts
of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples,
saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14:And they said, Some say that thou art
John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias,
or one of the prophets.
15:He saith unto them,
But whom say ye that I am?
16:And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17:And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:
for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee,
but my Father which is in heaven.
Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
It plainly states that the Christ is the Son of God. NOT GOD as you are claiming here.
See what I mean...you can read it word for word right there in the bible.
Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.