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Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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Zifnab21
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The Truth of Jesus Christ and his one faith. It has remained since he walked this word. It has divided into Baptists, Lutherans Mothodists, community churches, bible church's or any other protestant church that claims the faith, yet is in doctrinal conflict with other church's.
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Mitspa
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Yes that truth is and has been in the hands of the Spirit of Truth and the Word of God...
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prodigal
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Zifnab21
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kennethcadwell
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You forgot it was divided first into Catholics then Baptist's, Lutherans, and so on....
Catholic is a man made term that happened many years later after the division in the church members had already started.
We can clearly see that in the bible as it says they were called Christians first in Antioch, not Catholic. And Paul speaks of the divisions that were already starting to happen in the Christian church, before the term Catholic was even heard of.
Remember I was in the Catholic church for five years and took the RCIA classes, one of the reason I left besides teaching things we don't have to do. Was the false history they try to teach.
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GaryA
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Before the name 'Baptist' was the name 'Ana-baptist' - which meant "re-baptizer" ( coined by the Catholic Church as a derogatory name for their "enemies" who "re-baptized" people who had already been "baptized" by the Catholic Church ); before that were other names. The 'Baptist' lineage ( early history ) goes back to the first churches from the time of Christ. From that time until this day, 'true' baptists are not - and never were - protestants. Protestants are those who "protested" the Catholic Church and "broke away" / "split off" from it. Baptists ( known by other names; 'Baptist' had not been coined yet ) were around long before the name 'Catholic' was ever thought of...
Yes Catholic is heresy.
the teaching is salvation by work and faith.
Allah is the same God of Abraham, though Allah did not teach Jesus is God.
Catholic said the religion that deny the Deity of God is share the same God with Catholic. Mean catholic show his real God and it is Allah.
the teaching is salvation by work and faith.
Allah is the same God of Abraham, though Allah did not teach Jesus is God.
Catholic said the religion that deny the Deity of God is share the same God with Catholic. Mean catholic show his real God and it is Allah.
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Zifnab21
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I was referring to the protestant reformation and it's heretical teachings and when the one true church got it's name is a mute choice, it was always the church.mit was the protestant reformation tha brought in the primacy of conscience and private interpretation and introduced man-made doctrines and heresies.
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kennethcadwell
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I am not a catholic, but even our Lord said that a believer in Him is one who hears and does His teachings. Not somebody who just hears.
John 14:15
"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
John 14:24
Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father’s who sent me.
Luke 6:46-49
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.
Then Paul in his epistle to Titus confirms this;
Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate
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Mitspa
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I wonder do you think it was right to try and kill all those Protestants for leaving the RCC...like thy did..or to kill people for reading the bible? or for praying in their own tongue?
Prayer in one's own tongue has always been acceptable. Reading the Bible was acceptable. However, the Mass in another language was held as unacceptable and the Bible outside of Latin was held unacceptable. The Council of Trent changed the latter and Vatican II changed the former.
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Mitspa
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Yes they killed thousands and thousands of Christians for these things... Do you really think they represent Jesus Christ?
I believe good work is a fruit of abide in Him not our own strength. And this is a evident of salvation not requirement of salvation.
In only take faith in Jesus to be save, than Jesus will give us a power to do the love work.
So do you believe Allah is catholic God?
Lumen gentium II/16
16. Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God.(18*) In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh.(125) On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues.(126) But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.
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jeff_peacemkr
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doesn't really matter, does it..... (note though that they did not allow reading the Bible throughout most of history, and they still do not allow believing it) (you're required to believe what they say it says) ....
and, historically, again, and again, and they have killed others more than hitler and the nazis did, even, historically, including the last 40 years.... that doesn't mean you yourself were responsible, at that time, as you couldn't possibly have known.
see charles chiniquoy, "50 years in ...." for an eye opener for you from a former priest well known across the states at the time, canada, and europe including 'rome'....
his disclosure led to them trying to kill him also, as they tried to kill martin luther... and see , well.... search if you care to know the painful truth....
From it fruit you see who is Catholic. Killer not go to heaven.
Hitler is also work for catholic.
Images for Hitler and vatican
As did Lutherans slaughter priests, Calvin ordered the burning of Catholics at the stake, and Henry VIII had thousands of Catholics slaughtered for refusing to acknowledge his bigamy as marriage. Orthodox have killed Catholics, Coptics have killed Orthodox. Protestants have killed all three. Protestants have killed Jews and Muslims. Welcome to humanity. Where the evil of men's hearts seeks power wherever it dwell. Do I defend the murder of innocents? No. But do not get on a high horse and respond, "We have killed less, and therefore we are less of a murderer." Numbers my friend don't win you the prize of most or least holy. The Templars will stand before Christ for the slaughter of Jerusalem. Lutheran, Methodist, and Baptist ministers will stand before Christ for their support of Adolf Hitler in Saxony (that's history my friend). Catholic Priests too will stand beside those ministers for the same crime. You want to believe us to be more evil because we have spent more time among the world. Protestants learned quickly the art of conversion at the point of a sword. There have been devils among us Christians since the twelve, why do you think we are the only ones who have dealt with this affliction?
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Mitspa
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Can you prove any of these with real historical sources? And you do understand that we protestants had to fight to be set free from Rome's power...to my knowledge all the protestants wanted was to get out from the boot of the Rome...and if in the conflict some Protestants acted ungodly then I will be the first to say they cannot represent God...even to this day Rome has raped children and covered up its crimes ...this group cannot ever represent Christ...ever!
In the 60's Dr Alberto Rivera testified that every year Vatican have sex party ritual. No body believe then.
- [h=3]Emanuela Orlandi 'was kidnapped for sex parties for Vatican ...[/h]www.telegraph.co.uk/.../vaticancityandholysee/.../E...
The Daily Telegraph
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