Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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The Salvation protocol is as follows:
1) by first believing
2) and then "entering in" (applying the Blood to the doorpost and lintel)
#2 is an act of faithful obedience. Crucial.
Furthermore, you are entering in on GODS TERMS according to His pattern and requirements. Also crucial.
Mat 22:12
“So he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?' And he was speechless.
There is a difference between entering into salvation by faith.
And.. Entering into a covenant designed for the saved.
Both require faith.
First phase... It saves you. (faith in Christ)
Next phase... It keeps you safe. (faith in what the covenant requires)
Just wanted to try to help clarify some fuzzy logic that I was possibly sensing.
You need to know what is going on there. And it ain't Calvinism.
And you need to know exactly how the "hardening" business happens on a technical level.
And.....that ain't Calvinism either.
BTW, super-determinists are notorious around here for their loaded "one-liners".
Yes.... Hardening is what takes place during the process of resisting.
God knew Pharaoh would resist, and would use him for his own glory.
And, allowed Pharaoh to live longer that most men who resist.
It would be like saying... "I will callus his hands."
Then create an emergency that will require he shovels many times a day something you made to be seeping into his yard.
Yes! Because of what happened to Pharaoh and his army, God's name became even known in Jericho!
Just ask Rahab!
Because of Pharaoh's hardened heart, God's name became known all over the world!
Before the spies lay down for the night, she went up on the roof and said to them,
“I know that the Lord has given you this land and that a great fear of you has fallen on us, so that all who live in this country are melting in fear because of you.
We have heard how the Lord dried up the water of the Red Sea for you when you came out of Egypt, and what you did to Sihon and Og, the two kings of the Amorites east of the Jordan, whom you completely destroyed.
When we heard of it, our hearts melted in fear and everyone’s courage failed because of you, for the Lord your God is God in heaven above and on the earth below. Joshua 2:8-11
Before then? The Lord God was obscure and only known by the Jewish slaves in Egypt!
Thank you this is exactly the kind of response I was hoping for and yes you are correct on this so thank you for the response
The premise of the reformed/calvie/tulip doctrine of this particular circumstance in a nutshell is:
Thus, God arbitrarily determines who is saved or not.
but....... It was God making Himself known to a world wide audience. Not "making" a vessel for destruction.
In this thread where people have made a mistake in there understanding, and a single understanding to which there has been thousands of understandings, that needs understandings, and not cherry pickings, understanding meaning communication of compassion, in the sense that mistakes are not something that stops God caring, but something that comes from a bondaged will, where excuses are then justified, they really do let these understanding pass them by on hundreds of rants.
Where by people in this thread, people then decide to make a complete humiliation of a person for having one miss understanding, but they themselves don't have complete understanding of how to help an in-correct understanding, as they themselves have many miss understandings, and they are really not understanding one very important thing, and that is the truth about the bondage of the will causes this.
Now at this moment the bondaged will, will say up yours.
But the bandaged will may say. Yeah I know that feeling.
Where by people in this thread, people then decide to make a complete humiliation of a person for having one miss understanding, but they themselves don't have complete understanding of how to help an in-correct understanding, as they themselves have many miss understandings, and they are really not understanding one very important thing, and that is the truth about the bondage of the will causes this.
Now at this moment the bondaged will, will say up yours.
But the bandaged will may say. Yeah I know that feeling.
There is a HUGE CHASM between:
Some will not be saved and some cannot be saved......And there is no compromise between the 2.