Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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They taunt.
As they flaunt. Misapplied knowledge.

They know too much to be with excuse.
 
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Cameron143 said:
No you aren't. You simply want to appear correct.
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Are you sure that your alleged nondenominational church to claim to attend?
Isn't really a coven?

The spirit you keep projecting screams deceptive evasive, and evil.

How can you know what you know, and still deny it?
 
John146 said:
Good bible study includes verses that state the very thing you are claiming. That's all.
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Psalm 95:11
New King James Version
11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”

Romans 9:18

The heart does not show his mercy whilst it's hardened by him
 
Blain said:
I am wondering if this thread will ever reach a solid conclusion,, The word "choose" and its variations appear over 200 times and in each instance it has to do with a choice of obeying God or not or at least in most cases it does.

So do we have a will yes is it free will no because free will would mean that he does not know the beginning from the end if our will was able to make that be different then why does God know the beginning from end?

We can choose yes but he has already seen the outcome of that choice and the bible speaks of us either being slaves to sin or slaves to Christ and we as willing slaves to Christ forfeit our will in order to carry his instead. So once you submit your will to him you no longer have free will you only have the will of the father
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In my experience of discussing God's Word online since 2010, I find that that those who do not use Scripture in discussion or use it very little do not know much about the Bible.

Those who regard God's Word as very pure will truly love it.

Psalm 119:140 KJV
Thy word is very pure therefore thy servant loveth it.

In short, you talk about that which you love.
Talking about a system using a string of verses out of context is not love of God's Word but a love of that system.
There is a diffference. I mean, when you have folks say that 2 Thessalonians 2:10 is a dark verse (i.e., a mystery verse) that should be a sign that they are simply ignoring parts of the Bible to make a man-made belief or system to work.



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Genez said:
Are you sure that your alleged nondenominational church to claim to attend?
Isn't really a coven?

The spirit you keep projecting screams deceptive evasive, and evil.

How can you know what you know, and still deny it?
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So now I'm a warlock?

The things you accuse saints of!
 
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John146 said:
God's not willing that any should perish. God's will is not for any man to reject the gift of grace through Jesus Christ, but through man's own will, he rejects God's gift and ends up perishing.
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Sure. But God is willing to let people perish. So the verse doesn't mean that God will not let people perish, but would rather they believed or any isn't universal.
 
Dino246 said:
Yes, He did. That doesn’t answer my question.
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yes it does if they had eaten from the tree of life the they would have lived in an eternal state of sin. Which is and was forbidden

Which means they where left with his inherent will in them

Romans 9:18
 
Bible_Highlighter said:
In my experience of discussing God's Word online since 2010, I find that that those who do not use Scripture in discussion or use it very little do not know much about the Bible.

Those who regard God's Word as very pure will truly love it.

Psalm 119:140 KJV
Thy word is very pure therefore thy servant loveth it.

In short, you talk about that which you love.
Talking about a system using a string of verses out of context is not love of God's Word but a love of that system.
There is a diffference. I mean, when you have folks say that 2 Thessalonians 2:10 is a dark verse (i.e., a mystery verse) that should be a sign that they are simply ignoring parts of the Bible to make a man-made belief or system to work.



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I have seen a different experience when it comes to online debates and using God's word. In many debates people use his word with no regard to the sanctity of it they just use it to prove themselves right and others wrong it isn't about his word it is is about their point of view or on the other hand they will use it to mock or ridicule others they will cherry pick it take it out of context and form doctrines on what they have cherry picked and others still believe that just because they post scripture it makes their words and point valid yet they have no understanding of the scripture they just used they just think that it makes their point valid

The word of God is not a toy to use as we please and if it is used it is to be used with reverence I would rather use it sparingly in it's context with reverence and respect and for the purpose of edifying and building others up than to use it often out of context only to prove my own point to be right and others wrong or to take it out of context cherry pick it or use it to mock or put others down

It is kind of like how those who speak often are often times seen as unwise while those who speak little but when they do speak it is always profound and they are seen as wise because of this

Now compare it to scripture those who quote scripture often willy nilly do not tend to understand the verses they are using while those who use it sparingly for the right reason and with great reverence know and understand the scriptures but more importantly what it is meant to be used for
 
Jordon said:
yes it does if they had eaten from the tree of life the they would have lived in an eternal state of sin. Which is and was forbidden

Which means they where left with his inherent will in them

Romans 9:18
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“He prevented them” does not equal “the general action is forbidden for everyone”. You’re making a doctrinal argument on the basis of a narrative statement. That is not sound reasoning.
 
Dino246 said:
“He prevented them” does not equal “the general action is forbidden for everyone”. You’re making a doctrinal argument on the basis of a narrative statement. That is not sound reasoning.
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all have sinned and fallen short of the glory

All await a new heart

No one unsaved does his will not one

All are unsaved until saved

All have this inherent will

Romans 9:18
 
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