Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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GWH said:
You are free to think what you will.
The Potter made the clay with MFW, which means sin is the clay's fault--no excuse for ignoring GW/the Potter.
Yes, MFW includes ability to obey love/be saved.
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no the soul is also responsible for sin

Nice try Sherlock
 
GWH said:
You are free to think what you will.
The Potter made the clay with MFW, which means sin is the clay's fault--no excuse for ignoring GW/the Potter.
Yes, MFW includes ability to obey love/be saved.
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see your saying God created man with moral free will to sin

Helloooooo
 
It's not rocket science that sin wants to sin, it wants to Disobey God, it wants to do what it wants.

It has a law of free will.

God creating man with with this free will ?

What
No way.

Ridiculous,

God created man with his life and will to accept life from life he never.

Sin then entered and law of sin was born in man, which was freewill to sin
 
cv5 said:
At any rate, you have been given the benefit of this outline.
By all means consult with your bedfellows @Rufus @Magenta @rogerg. See if it will do you any good......:sneaky:
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You have no right to say how I am or what I'm doing.

You can't even judge your own actions.

And as for who i bed down with that's my wife.

If i was was you, I would get some barbwire and tie it round your tongue 😛
 
cv5 said:
Already been completely de-Calvinized. Jewish wedding protocol reference. Has been properly exegeted countless times.

A doctrinal concept far beyond the pay-grade of any biblically illiterate Calvinist in this neck of the woods.

More of the same willful obfuscation by you Calvinists.
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Typical gibberish from a FWer with nothing intelligent to say!
 
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Jordon said:
You have no right to say how I am or what I'm doing.

You can't even judge your own actions.

And as for who i bed down with that's my wife.

If i was was you, I would get some barbwire and tie it round your tongue 😛
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This passage/scenario yet another devastating blow to the Calvinists. And they don't even know it......:cautious:
Do you?

Jdg 15:2
Her father said, “I really thought that you thoroughly hated her; therefore I gave her to your companion. Is not her younger sister better than she? Please, take her instead.”
 
Jordon said:
and again you cut my whole post.

You are highly rude.
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If the Calvinists actually DID understand this account, they would abandon their posts, flee and never go back......

Jdg 15:12
But they said to him, “We have come down to arrest you, that we may deliver you into the hand of the Philistines.” Then Samson said to them, “Swear to me that you will not kill me yourselves.”

Jdg 15:13
So they spoke to him, saying, “No, but we will tie you securely and deliver you into their hand; but we will surely not kill you.” And they bound him with two new ropes and brought him up from the rock.
 
cv5 said:
This passage/scenario yet another devastating blow to the Calvinists. And they don't even know it......:cautious:
Do you?

Jdg 15:2
Her father said, “I really thought that you thoroughly hated her; therefore I gave her to your companion. Is not her younger sister better than she? Please, take her instead.”
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why are you just cherry picking ?

It was samsons wife's father who did this not samsons father.

And again what does this have to do with anything ?
 
cv5 said:
If the Calvinists actually DID understand this account, they would abandon their posts, flee and never go back......

Jdg 15:12
But they said to him, “We have come down to arrest you, that we may deliver you into the hand of the Philistines.” Then Samson said to them, “Swear to me that you will not kill me yourselves.”

Jdg 15:13
So they spoke to him, saying, “No, but we will tie you securely and deliver you into their hand; but we will surely not kill you.” And they bound him with two new ropes and brought him up from the rock.
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what does this have to do with anything ?
 
Jordon said:
I think you'll find he made the clay with his moral will
Only you've added the word your own free will into the mix

Sorry to inform you but your just speculating
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Sorry to inform you but your speculation makes man into mere robots.
 
cv5 said:
If the Calvinists actually DID understand this account, they would abandon their posts, flee and never go back......

Jdg 15:12
But they said to him, “We have come down to arrest you, that we may deliver you into the hand of the Philistines.” Then Samson said to them, “Swear to me that you will not kill me yourselves.”

Jdg 15:13
So they spoke to him, saying, “No, but we will tie you securely and deliver you into their hand; but we will surely not kill you.” And they bound him with two new ropes and brought him up from the rock.
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ok I get it

These two passages show free will rather than determined outcomes is that it ?

You know what honestly predestination is not determinism
 
GWH said:
Sorry to inform you but your speculation makes man into mere robots.
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err if you say, but if your saying he created them with free will how could he judge them.



He would be responsible for all mankind going to hell if your theory was correct.

You just don't get it
 
Hi guys. I hope you are good. I'm new here and I've been following this thread for a while now, is it possible for you all to debate without being rude to each other?
I love good discussions as well but brethren things shouldn't be as they are here. I wish to join the discussion if only y'all weren't this rude.
 
cv5 said:
Agree, this certainly is the common refrain, and dire state, among the Calvinists......
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well no your saying free will acts of men prove against determinism.

And you only see determinism as a bad thing,.

The better picture is Gods plan of salvation was determined by God
 
Roda said:
Hi guys. I hope you are good. I'm new here and I've been following this thread for a while now, is it possible for you all to debate without being rude to each other?
I love good discussions as well but brethren things shouldn't be as they are here. I wish to join the discussion if only y'all weren't this rude.
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in the mind of free will , It a thread called you can act out your free will to the free willer.

You've got no chance of getting through 🙂
 
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