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Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Lol, you might think you're an oracle, i don't. You're welcome to explain your thoughts on the matter, i might agree, or not.prevented from enacting it by the will of others.
That is not what is meant by the term "free will."
I already explained why the lost want to refuse him.
It is not because of sin.
It is because of evil being their preference.
I explained how it works as God applies grace to suppress the sin nature, as to make the soul able to make a choice.
Sin and evil.
There is a difference.
Jesus died for our sins.
Jesus did not die for evil.
Satan tempts to sin.
Satan himself is evil.
Not simply a sinner.
Evil finds God repulsive.
Sin only cuts one off from God.
Why are we getting stuck and bogged down and limited to the maternity ward of Christianity?
There is so much more to learn and know.
Tremendous things to learn and to know.
Because Evil wants to keep Christians unable to mature.
Evil knows how to appeal to the ego and flesh of weak believers
who find their strength operational when being that way.
Jesus warned!
There are believers who refuse to lose their life.
For whoever wants to save their life will lose it,
.......... but whoever loses their life for me will find it." Matthew 16:25
See to it that no one falls short of God’s grace; that no root of resentment springs up
and causes trouble, and by it many be defiled; Hebrews 12:15
That is what is being found here in spades!
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I know this is pointless.. such much protection of this pet doctrine.
Just on the surface these verses do not have the word "regeneration" in them.
The word "palingenesia" (regeneration) is not in those verses.
but yet your quite often calling people evil.
Sin is evil in the lords eye you can't split them up
Evil is condemned to death as is sin
Do you notice they same ole questions over and over again by different people. This questions do not come on their own, they are coached.
.... "why do some refuse" "or where does faith come from" as if that question is the answer for irresistible grace/regeneration before faith.
Your answer will not satisfy... just so you know.
There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community
(Proverbs 6:16-19).
seven that are detestable to him:
haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community
(Proverbs 6:16-19).
well I'm warming to her to m
But a nice sausage butty would clinch it
Maybe you guys should get a room or something.
well no I don't need to because my wife makes me a nice sausage butty everyday
The words "free will" are not in any verses pertaining to salvation. Pointless pointing that out to people
in love with their vain self-exalting philosophically based doctrine, I know, but ever hopeful someone
who did not already know and is open to believing what the Bible actually says on the matter, may
be enlightened by seeing what Scripture says about man, and not what ear ticklers like you say.
on second thoughts maybe you didn't recognise the discussion was about being silly
As your to busy thinking sin is justified you couldn't possibly see thats your own sin,
A bit sorry for you Genez, whether you truly believe the above or want to cause friction. Don't forget the Lord wants us to love and rejoice in Him too, just as much as He wants us to fear His righteous wrath.
Simply amazing that you and the other free willies, claim those that give God ALL the credit for quickening us, and giving us the faith to believe in Jesus Christ and His Atoning Sacrifice are arrogant because we believe we are predestined for Salvation.
You just wrote that YOUR preference is to do good and, NOT evil, like the lost does, therefore because you are a better person than they, you prefer good and to choose Jesus. All of this occurring prior to regeneration and new birth.
How is that not the picture of boasting and arrogance?
So God suppresses the human sin nature, for some indeterminate amount of time, so that you choose to do good!? And He does this for everyone, but only those that do good and not evil will choose Him, because you are better people!?
Show me this in Scripture.
Hint, don’t look too long, it ain’t there!
on second thoughts maybe you didn't recognise the discussion was about being silly
As your to busy thinking sin is justified you couldn't possibly see thats your own sin,
Whatever.
John 20:31
“But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
Life clearly is a fruit of faith and repentance, not the other way around.
“But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
- “these are written…” (scriptures)
- “…that you may believe…”
- “…by believing you may have life…”
Life clearly is a fruit of faith and repentance, not the other way around.
I know this reaction well, it's sometimes meant as ok.
But your friend genez justified sin by saying it's different to evil, and you never reprimanded him m
All you did was encourage him to fight with us more
That's so sweet, don't care if your tongue was in your cheek while typing it. If you're American, hope tongue in cheek has the same meaning for you friend
Sadly neither of them, nor others they hang around with, strike me as people with strong, spiritual chops. They clearly have issues with people disagreeing with them too and actually dislike discussion taking place, in the Bible Discussion Forum.I know this reaction well, it's sometimes meant as ok.
But your friend genez justified sin by saying it's different to evil, and you never reprimanded him m
All you did was encourage him to fight with us more