Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Believer08 said:
well, you asked a Bible question so I gave you a Bible answer. 🤷‍♂️
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He's an agnostic. Which is just another word for atheist. Though agnostic is defined as also
saying along with they do not know, that nobody can know. Which is of course poppycock.

His type is described as a fool in Scripture. Here is what is said of them in Bible (which they do not believe):

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. Psalm 14 v 1

Scripture defines who and what a fool is. Here is some of what Scripture says of fools/what fools are known for ~

1. being wicked (2 Samuel 13 v 13; Psalm 94 v 3,8)

2. mockers of God (Psalm 74 v 22)

3. not understanding their bleak eternal destiny (Psalm 92 v 6)

4. being rebellious (Psalm 107 v 17)

5. despising spiritual wisdom (Proverbs 1 v 7)

6. hating spiritual knowledge (Proverbs 1 v 22)

7. mockers delighting in mockery (Proverbs 1 v 22)

8. being wayward and complacent (Proverbs 1 v 32)

9. being wicked and held up to shame by God (Proverbs 3 v 33, 35)

10. dying for their lack of knowledge (Proverbs 10 v 21)

11. having hearts that blurt out folly (Proverbs 12 v 23)

12. detesting the thought to turn away from evil (Prov 13 v 19)

13. bringing harm to their companions (Prov 13 v 20)

14. folly in their heart that is deception (Prov 14 v 8)

15. mockers at making amends for their sins (Prov 14 v 9)

16. known for their folly that only yields folly (Prov 14 v 24)

17. not spreading true [spiritual] knowledge (Prov 15 v 7)

18. their folly that brings them punishment (Prov 16 v 22)

20. being ignorant of their wrong-doings (Ecclesiastes 5 v 1)

21. being unpleasing to God (Ecclesiastes 5 v 4)

22. having hearts that are in the house of pleasure (Ecclesiastes7 v 4)

23. their laughter as being meaningless (Ecclesiastes 7 v 6)

24. their anger residing in their laps (Ecclesiastes 7 v 9)

25. thinking of themselves as wise counselors but only giving senseless advice (Isaiah 19 v 11)

26. not being willing to walk in the Way of Holiness (Isaiah 35 v 8)

27. not knowing God (Jeremiah 4 v 22)

28. being false prophets (Jeremiah 50 v 36)

29. being equated with the wicked (1 Samuel 25 v 25)

30. at times for recognizing themselves as being great sinners (1 Samuel 26 v 21)

31. resentment or envy slaying them (Job 5 v 2)

31. denying the existence of God (Psalm 14 v 1; 53 v 1)

32. their chattering that bring them to ruin (Prov 10 v 10, 14)

33. the spreaders of slander (Prov 10 v 18)

34. finding pleasure in evil conduct (Prov 10 v 23)

35. choosing a way that seems right to them and ignoring good advice (Prov 12 v 15)

36. angering quickly (Prov 12 v 16; 20 v 3; 29 v 11)

37. exposing their own folly (Prov 13 v 16)

38. being hotheaded and reckless (Prov 14 v 16)

39. having mouths that gush folly (Prov 15 v 2)

40. having mouths that feed on folly (Prov 15 v 14)

41. spurning their father's discipline (Prov 15 v 5)

42. having no desire to get wisdom (Prov 17 v 16)

43. finding no pleasure in understanding (Prov 18 v 2)

44. delighting in airing their own opinions (Prov 18 v 2)

45. having perverse lips (Prov v 19 v 1)

46. scorning the wisdom of wise words if the wise speak to them (Prov 23 v 9)

47. their proverbs being as useless as a lame man's legs hanging limp (Prov 26 v 7).

48. a dog that returns to its vomit when it repeats its folly (Prov 26 v 11)

49. their provocation which is heavier than stone and sand (Prov 27 v 3)

50. their great reluctance in removing their folly from themselves (Prov 27 v 22)

51. trusting in themselves (Prov 28 v 26)

52. raging and scoffing at the wise man with whom he goes to court (Prov 29 v 9)

53. playing the fool, exalting themselves or planning evil (Prov 30 v 32)

54. walking in the darkness (Ecclesiastes 2 v 14)

55. folding their hands and bringing ruin to themselves (Ecclesiastes 4 v 5)

56. their speech pours out many words (Ecclesiastes 5 v 3)

57. lacking sense and showing everyone how stupid they are (Ecclesiastes 10 v 13)

58. being consumed by their own lips (Ecclesiastes 10 v 12)

59. multiplying their own words (Ecclesiastes 10 v 14)

60. Fools speak folly, their hearts are bent on evil: They practice ungodliness and spread error concerning
the LORD; the hungry they leave empty and from the thirsty they withhold water. (Isaiah 32 v 6)

61. gaining riches by unjust gains (Jeremiah 17 v 11)

 
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Magenta said:
He's an agnostic. Which is just another word for atheist. Though agnostic is defined as also
saying along with they do not know, that nobody can know. Which is of course poppycock.

His type is described as a fool in Scripture. Here is what is said of them in Bible (which they do not believe):

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. Psalm 14 v 1

Scripture defines who and what a fool is. Here is some of what Scripture says of fools/what fools are known for ~

1. being wicked (2 Samuel 13 v 13; Psalm 94 v 3,8)

2. mockers of God (Psalm 74 v 22)

3. not understanding their bleak eternal destiny (Psalm 92 v 6)

4. being rebellious (Psalm 107 v 17)

5. despising spiritual wisdom (Proverbs 1 v 7)

6. hating spiritual knowledge (Proverbs 1 v 22)

7. mockers delighting in mockery (Proverbs 1 v 22)

8. being wayward and complacent (Proverbs 1 v 32)

9. being wicked and held up to shame by God (Proverbs 3 v 33, 35)

10. dying for their lack of knowledge (Proverbs 10 v 21)

11. having hearts that blurt out folly (Proverbs 12 v 23)

12. detesting the thought to turn away from evil (Prov 13 v 19)

13. bringing harm to their companions (Prov 13 v 20)

14. folly in their heart that is deception (Prov 14 v 8)

15. mockers at making amends for their sins (Prov 14 v 9)

16. known for their folly that only yields folly (Prov 14 v 24)

17. not spreading true [spiritual] knowledge (Prov 15 v 7)

18. their folly that brings them punishment (Prov 16 v 22)

20. being ignorant of their wrong-doings (Ecclesiastes 5 v 1)

21. being unpleasing to God (Ecclesiastes 5 v 4)

22. having hearts that are in the house of pleasure (Ecclesiastes7 v 4)

23. their laughter as being meaningless (Ecclesiastes 7 v 6)

24. their anger residing in their laps (Ecclesiastes 7 v 9)

25. thinking of themselves as wise counselors but only giving senseless advice (Isaiah 19 v 11)

26. not being willing to walk in the Way of Holiness (Isaiah 35 v 8)

27. not knowing God (Jeremiah 4 v 22)

28. being false prophets (Jeremiah 50 v 36)

29. being equated with the wicked (1 Samuel 25 v 25)

30. at times for recognizing themselves as being great sinners (1 Samuel 26 v 21)

31. resentment or envy slaying them (Job 5 v 2)

31. denying the existence of God (Psalm 14 v 1; 53 v 1)

32. their chattering that bring them to ruin (Prov 10 v 10, 14)

33. the spreaders of slander (Prov 10 v 18)

34. finding pleasure in evil conduct (Prov 10 v 23)

35. choosing a way that seems right to them and ignoring good advice (Prov 12 v 15)

36. angering quickly (Prov 12 v 16; 20 v 3; 29 v 11)

37. exposing their own folly (Prov 13 v 16)

38. being hotheaded and reckless (Prov 14 v 16)

39. having mouths that gush folly (Prov 15 v 2)

40. having mouths that feed on folly (Prov 15 v 14)

41. spurning their father's discipline (Prov 15 v 5)

42. having no desire to get wisdom (Prov 17 v 16)

43. finding no pleasure in understanding (Prov 18 v 2)

44. delighting in airing their own opinions (Prov 18 v 2)

45. having perverse lips (Prov v 19 v 1)

46. scorning the wisdom of wise words if the wise speak to them (Prov 23 v 9)

47. their proverbs being as useless as a lame man's legs hanging limp (Prov 26 v 7).

48. a dog that returns to its vomit when it repeats its folly (Prov 26 v 11)

49. their provocation which is heavier than stone and sand (Prov 27 v 3)

50. their great reluctance in removing their folly from themselves (Prov 27 v 22)

51. trusting in themselves (Prov 28 v 26)

52. raging and scoffing at the wise man with whom he goes to court (Prov 29 v 9)

53. playing the fool, exalting themselves or planning evil (Prov 30 v 32)

54. walking in the darkness (Ecclesiastes 2 v 14)

55. folding their hands and bringing ruin to themselves (Ecclesiastes 4 v 5)

56. their speech pours out many words (Ecclesiastes 5 v 3)

57. lacking sense and showing everyone how stupid they are (Ecclesiastes 10 v 13)

58. being consumed by their own lips (Ecclesiastes 10 v 12)

59. multiplying their own words (Ecclesiastes 10 v 14)

60. Fools speak folly, their hearts are bent on evil: They practice ungodliness and spread error concerning
the LORD; the hungry they leave empty and from the thirsty they withhold water. (Isaiah 32 v 6)

61. gaining riches by unjust gains (Jeremiah 17 v 11)
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Thanks for letting me know that.
 
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Ephesians 2 v 1-3 You were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience. All of us also lived among them at one time, fulfilling the cravings of our flesh and indulging its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature children of wrath.
 
Magenta said:
Not something you choose.

It is actually explicitly articulated that it is not by the will of the flesh, or the will of man, but by God's will.

Made alive while we were yet dead. Dead in our trespasses and sins.

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1 Corinthians 4 verse 7b; John 3 verse 27; Romans 9 verses 15-16 ~ What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did also receive it, why do you boast as not having received it? John replied, "A man can receive only that which is given him from heaven." "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." So then, it does not depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.
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We Witness/Evangelise, in order to try to bring people to Christ, hoping that they will CHOOSE to be BORN AGAIN.
 
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Ephesians 2 v 4-7 ~ Because of His great love for us, God, Who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in our trespasses. It is by grace you have been saved! And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. :)
 
Last one from me tonight:
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I am from Norway, Northern Europe. Up here we are pretty liberal as you might know.
Now personally, I respect that you have your religion. If you do believe in God; no problem for me. Go on.

Maybe more interesting, and of more consequences, is your political opinion; that is, who you vote for, and what political party you support. Why is that more interesting? Obviously: Beacause that has implications of the society. I could pose a lot of examples, but I choose to do not so just now.

Nevertheless, whatever religion or politics we support, do not forget to be a decent human being. Respect and love you fellow human being, always. I believe that is a christian doctrine, originated from Jesus himself.

I wish you all a pleasant and a good and fruitful day. As we say in Norway:

"Berre den som vandrar, finn nye vegar."

Meaning:
Only the one wandering, can find new paths to follow."
 
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the_seeker said:
Last one from me tonight:
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I am from Norway, Northern Europe. Up here we are pretty liberal as you might know.
Now personally, I respect that you have your religion. If you do believe in God; no problem for me. Go on.

Maybe more interesting, and of more consequences, is your political opinion; that is, who you vote for, and what political party you support. Why is that more interesting? Obviously: Beacause that has implications of the society. I could pose a lot of examples, but I choose to do not so just now.

Nevertheless, whatever religion or politics we support, do not forget to be a decent human being. Respect and love you fellow human being, always. I believe that is a christian doctrine, originated from Jesus himself.

I wish you all a pleasant and a good and fruitful day. As we say in Norway:

"Berre den som vandrar, finn nye vegar."

Meaning:
Only the one wandering, can find new paths to follow."
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Matthew 7 v 13 plus Romans 8 v 13 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live
 
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the_seeker said:
Only the one wandering, can find new paths to follow."
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Ecclesiastes 12 v 6-7 Remember Him before the silver cord is snapped and the golden bowl is
crushed, before the pitcher is shattered at the spring and the wheel is broken at the well, before the dust returns to the ground from which it came and the spirit returns to God Who gave it.
 
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OLDBUTNEW said:
Pretenses ?! I don't think you have a very good grasp of the English language, sweetie!
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Yes, pretenses. You pretend to know me, because you are dishonest and pretentious
to the extent of delusionally believing you can dictate my testimony to me.

I wonder what your previous user name was.
 
@OLDBUTNEW, you and @Magenta are fighting like an old married couple 😆

I’ve never been married, but sparring with @Magenta on here is probably the closest thing today that I’ll get to knowing what it’s like to have a hubby/wifey disagreement 😂😂

At least we both like apple pie!!
 
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