Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[Genez]

We have been told these things are forced on the person.

These free willers have a strange way of presenting God's drawing due to His great undying love.

We are forced to accept these things, we are told... while they promote the free will of man.

As long as you can keep pumping out that lie in the manner you have been....
You will appear (to some) to look like you know what you are talking about.

That is fine, though.

For God uses your resistance to open a door for the expression and thinking of those who can think with the Word of God.
More can be learned that way than if the truth were never challenged.

Thank you for your service.

 

[Genez]

How do people use so many words and say nothing?

Keep practicing. You'll get it.
You're getting close.

 

[sawdust]

Since scripture tells us children were not born evil and Jesus tells us we must be like a child in order to get in to Heaven - WHY are you teaching the opposite claiming Jesus is telling us to become evil in order to get in to Heaven???

How you end up with that conclusion from what I said is miraculous to say the least. I have said a thousand times on this forum we are born knowing neither good nor evil. Please go and read again what I said and try to understand what it means.

 

[Kroogz]

Has God ever prevented anyone the new birth who desired life? If so, chapter and verse, please.

Has God ever prevented anyone from believing in the Lord Jesus Christ for their salvation?

He will convict/convince the WORLD.

Just typing" The Lord Jesus Christ" is convicting/convincing to all who read it.

His very name is salvation.


Acts 17:31~~because He has set a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all people by raising Him from the dead.”

 

[Genez]

How you end up with that conclusion from what I said is miraculous to say the least. I have said a thousand times on this forum we are born knowing neither good nor evil. Please go and read again what I said and try to understand what it means.

Now you know what it is like when you do the same thing to us.

 

[Rufus]

How do people use so many words and say nothing?

This is what fools do! They multiply words and hide behind their useless, equivocating, obfuscating word salads while their self-deceived hearts make them believe they actually said something of value.

 

[Jordon]

You might want to start with the beam in your own eye.

That's the first commanded of being saved by enabling free will.

The second is shout as loud as possible

 

[Rufus]

Has God ever prevented anyone from believing in the Lord Jesus Christ for their salvation?

He will convict/convince the WORLD.

Just typing" The Lord Jesus Christ" is convicting/convincing to all who read it.

His very name is salvation.


Acts 17:31~~because He has set a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all people by raising Him from the dead.”

Now answer my question! Has God ever prevented anyone life who desired to be born again?

 

[sawdust]

What part of "NO ONE is good, except God alone", can't you understand?

I did not qualify I said no-one is good. The only goodness a man can attain is the goodness that comes from the Spirit when walking within the will of God for here is where God declares him good, not makes him good in and of himself.

You really have a problem comprehending what I say.

Strewth!

 

[sawdust]

Yes, God works to draw all his covenant people to himself who are indeed scattered to the ends of the earth. (Acquaint yourself with the Abrahamic Covenant someday.) God has never made a redemptive covenant with the entire world.

Amazing. Proven wrong but can't admit it. Instead has to speak of something else. Will you admit the sin nature does not have desires or will you continue to ignore your error and pretend it never happened?

I never said God has made a covenant with the world. Once again you simply put words in my mouth to justify yourself.

 

[Jordon]

The greatest commandment I give to thee,, is man shall live by every free will that proceeds out of thy mouth

 

[Kroogz]

Now answer my question! Has God ever prevented anyone life who desired to be born again?

Sorry oh so lofty one from before the foundation. You are not on my schedule at this time.

 

[sawdust]

You obviously cannot believe in God's New Creation, can you? And since you don't believe in His new creation, then you must believe that sin will plague the children of God for all eternity in the New Eternal Order.

And you obviously cannot believe in God's omnipotence, can you? Once you say God "cannot do" something with respect to any of his creatures, then this amounts to a tacit denial of this attribute.

You have more than a few very serious doctrinal errors in your quiver, don't you?

Our goodness in the New Creation will still be from the reflection of God's goodness in our lives. We will never be made inherently good because God alone is good.

The only error I'm aware of at present is talking to you. So .....

have a nice day.

 

[Cameron143]

Keep practicing. You'll get it.
You're getting close.

More gobbledygook wisdom.

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

It seems that God enables men to get to know what is needed about God and His qualities.
Salvation could amount to God saying to someone who has been so enlightened by God's drawing...

"Will you join me?"
"Will you be with me?"

We say..."yes."
And, He takes us in. (salvation)

God's drawing to man is likened to a marriage proposal.

We must remember! God is love.

God is love indeed.
Hypothetically speaking: I believe we may all cry deeply if God reveals the depth of His love working in our life and the lives of others at the Judgment (if God so chooses to reveal such a thing).




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[Jordon]

What is your point?

I thought you had freedom of choice from the lord is this the best one you could come up with m.

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

This is a remembrance of what God does for His people. Our God is described as being longsuffering. His people are not perfect, but He chose them in spite of this.
Even those who belong to Him continue to sin. And, when things go wrong, they cry out to the Lord for help.
We all sin and should be thankful that our God is longsuffering! This is what gets us back on the right path.

I believe God calls all believers to live a holy life to honor His grace.
Please carefully read 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 KJV, Titus 2:11-12 KJV, and Ephesians 5:25-27 KJV.
I believe those who seek to justify their sin are not going to make it.
There are many verses like 1 Peter 4:1-2 KJV, Galatians 5:24 KJV, 2 Corinthians 7:1 KJV, Galatians 6:8-9 KJV that most believers today do not actually believe. They think 1 John 1:8 KJV is like some kind of banner flag to justify their sinning as a normal every day thing, when it is talking about the false gnostic believer who thought sin did not exist and so they believed they can sin with impunity and be in God's good graces (See Jude 1:4 KJV). But we are living in the last days, and men have a form of godliness and deny the power thereof. What power are they denying? Well, its obvious. They deny the power of God to help them to be sanctified by the Holy Spirit in conduct in this life. We live in a world today where pleasure and sin are the real masters instead of the goodness of God.



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[Magenta]

God is love indeed.
Hypothetically speaking: I believe we may all cry deeply if God reveals the depth of His love working in our life and the lives of others at the Judgment (if God so chooses to reveal such a thing).

Has He not revealed such to you? We do have people here who kick up quite a fuss if you say anything to acknowledge God
having called you out of the world... they make quite a stink about it, claiming we are bragging when we are actually praising
God for what He has done, for we know we are unworthy, although this is simply another thing free willers repeatedly lie about.

 

[Magenta]

Despite what the un-Biblical free will doctrine promoters put forth, the natural man does not have everything he needs in order to grow the good fruit of faith from the stony ground of his incurably wicked heart which is opposed to the things of God, and he cannot change himself, being a lover of darkness who suppresses the truth in unrighteousness as a slave to sin, being inherently hostile in his mind toward God, and blinded to the truth while under the power of the evil one. Those who promote the free will of the natural man reject a plethora of Biblical truths. Praise God if Jesus has set you free!

 

[Jordon]

I believe God calls all believers to live a holy life to honor His grace.
Please carefully read 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 KJV, Titus 2:11-12 KJV, and Ephesians 5:25-27 KJV.
I believe those who seek to justify their sin are not going to make it.
There are many verses like 1 Peter 4:1-2 KJV, Galatians 5:24 KJV, 2 Corinthians 7:1 KJV, Galatians 6:8-9 KJV that most believers today do not actually believe. They think 1 John 1:8 KJV is like some kind of banner flag to justify their sinning as a normal every day thing, when it is talking about the false gnostic believer who thought sin did not exist and so they believed they can sin with impunity and be in God's good graces (See Jude 1:4 KJV). But we are living in the last days, and men have a form of godliness and deny the power thereof. What power are they denying? Well, its obvious. They deny the power of God to help them to be sanctified by the Holy Spirit in conduct in this life. We live in a world today where pleasure and sin are the real masters instead of the goodness of God.



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How can you say such a thing m, if you believe you are without sin, how can you mock another person sin,

I believe I can fly m is that a sin well the lord said

but those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.

I wonder m what happend to your choice here