Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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The word gnontos means know or realize. In the original Greek there is no connotation of the word having to do with spiritual understanding or enlightenment. It is knowledge from self enlightenment or awareness.

Mankind has always made excuses, starting with Adam. This in no way has made man unaccountable before God.

https://biblehub.com/text/galatians/4-9.htm

Same word used and if that is not spiritual enlightenment, don't know what is.
 
You are incorrect. It's not epignosis. It is knowledge that comes through creation and conscience. It is natural knowledge; not spiritual.

The Greek is actually saying that they are KNOWINGLY rejecting God.

That is why it says?

They are without excuse.
 
The Greek is actually saying that they are KNOWINGLY rejecting God.

That is why it says?

They are without excuse.
I agree, but from whence their knowing comes is also made plain...creation...natural knowledge.
 
Actually verse Rom.1:28 says they did not have epignosis but they did have complete understanding of who God is for the word used in Rom.1:21 is the same word used in Gal.2:9

It still leaves them to be without excuse for they were not deceived nor ignorant of who God is. They understood His rightful place in their lives but refused to acknowledge giving Him that place.

Are you maybe thinking of something else?

Is Romans 1:28 in the same form of the word?

What it amounts to?

They were not simply rejecting knowledge of God.
But, were in the act of knowingly rejecting God.

I heard this exegeted a while back, and while surprised, took note that the use of the term "epignosis" was used.
If not? Then what is stated. As it was stated. Amounts to what we find with epignosis.

That is why? They are without excuse.
If it said that God simply left strong clues that He is real?
Then it could not say they are without excuse.

grace and peace ............
 
I agree, but from whence their knowing comes is also made plain...creation...natural knowledge.

It is not as simple as you make it to be.

How things were created reveals a thinking mega genius as it's designer.
Your body and functions could not have created itself. And, it was not created by simply mixing some chemicals together.
Your body reveals a mega-ultra genius's hand in design and composition.

They knowingly reject God because of how thorough God was in getting them to realize that He has to exist, and how intelligent
He must be. That He can not be a figment of someone's imagination.
 
You are incorrect. It's not epignosis. It is knowledge that comes through creation and conscience. It is natural knowledge; not spiritual.
I wonder why this conversation has to go on for months and months and months. And months.

Are they not able to ingest the milk of God's Word?

Let them eat cake...

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The different tenses used highlight the way the word is used. The first involves human effort in gaining knowledge while the second involves the activity of God in the facilitation of acquiring knowledge.
How do you gain knowledge about God?
 
I wonder why this conversation has to go on for months and months and months. And months.

Are they not able to ingest the milk of God's Word?

Let them eat cake...

Not junk food.

Let them eat steak.

The meat of the Word!
 
Did not God grant angels the freedom to reject Him?

1/3 of them rejected Him.

Not a good batting average?
And the "elect" angels did not reject Him.
Which of course defines the term "elect".
Which of course is utterly contrary to the Calvinists' erroneous definition.

Which of course is why God chose the line of Jacob.
And did not choose the line of Esau.

Which of course is the predominant thesis of Romans nine:
That God "chooses" the faithful/believing.

Which of course defines why those faithful of the Church are likewise "chosen".
 
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It is not as simple as you make it to be.

How things were created reveals a thinking mega genius as it's designer.
Your body and functions could not have created itself. And, it was not created by simply mixing some chemicals together.
Your body reveals a mega-ultra genius's hand in design and composition.

They knowingly reject God because of how thorough God was in getting them to realize that He has to exist, and how intelligent
He must be. That He can not be a figment of someone's imagination.
Again, I don't disagree that they knowingly reject God, but nowhere in the text in Romans 1 does it state that their knowledge came as a direct result of the activity of God. Conversely, it does state that they come to their realizations in consideration of creation.
 
Is Romans 1:28 in the same form of the word?

What it amounts to?

They were not simply rejecting knowledge of God.
But, were in the act of knowingly rejecting God.

I heard this exegeted a while back, and while surprised, took note that the use of the term "epignosis" was used.
If not? Then what is stated. As it was stated. Amounts to what we find with epignosis.

That is why? They are without excuse.
If it said that God simply left strong clues that He is real?
Then it could not say they are without excuse.

grace and peace ............

Look here and decide for yourself. I'm no scholar, I just compare apples with apples. :)

https://biblehub.com/text/romans/1-21.htm

https://biblehub.com/text/romans/1-28.htm

Verse 28 seems to clearly be saying they did not have epignosis but if you look at the other places gnontes is used (ie Gal.4:9 or 2:9) it gives them no excuse as it makes it clear they fully understood who God is and what that means but refused to acknowledge Him as such and so are without excuse.
 
Know and known are not the same tense. There is also a difference in the usage. The first usage is self realization while the second is a given realization.

Did you look at the links?

Both are translated "having known". Both verbs are in the Aorist participle active - nominative masculaine plural

Go argue with Bible Hub because they disagree with you. :)
 
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