Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The Holy Spirit is my pastor. How about you?

So are you saying that you've never been to church and listened to what is taught there?

 

[cv5]

The fact that he hasn't read it demonstrates that his understanding didn't come from it.

Then perhaps it demonstrates that he got it from someone else who read it.

 

[Magenta]

You don't have to have ever read it. Your pastor did in seminary

You know his pastor? Wow.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

You know his pastor? Wow.

I think there's a very high likelihood that any pastor who attended seminary has read it

 

[cv5]

I imagine no such thing. I post the proof texts often and they are rejected, contradicted, and denied, even by you.

Free willers have even been known to rewrite the words of Jesus to make them fit their presups.

They refuse to accept what Scripture says in a multitude of places.

Actually it's the Calvinistic distortions and misapprehensions that we reject.

 

[Cameron143]

Then perhaps it demonstrates that he got it from someone else who read it.

Or...he simply read scripture.

 

[Magenta]

So are you saying that you've never been to church and listened to what is taught there?

What lies have you adopted from your false teachers?

 

[GWH]

The Bible alone is the root of my religion. Unfortunately, you don't comprehend enough of it to realize/understand its message.

Oh really? What part of the Bible would you like to discuss systematically so we can see whether it supports your religion?

 

[rogerg]

So are you saying that you've never been to church and listened to what is taught there?

Are you saying that your understanding hasn't been led by the Holy Spirit within you but instead by man?

 

[GWH]

The fact that he hasn't read it demonstrates that his understanding didn't come from it.

Not necessarily. Many people are ignorant of the history of their beliefs.

 

[rogerg]

Oh really? What part of the Bible would you like to discuss systematically so we can see whether it supports your religion?

[Tit 3:5-6 KJV] 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

You start.

 

[Magenta]

I think there's a very high likelihood that any pastor who attended seminary has read it

Doesn't follow that they would necessarily teach from it. You are shady.

 

[Magenta]

[Tit 3:5-6 KJV] 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing
of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

Titus 3 verses 4-5 ~ When the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Cameron143]

Not at all. Many people are ignorant of the history of their beliefs.

If an individual independently comes to a set of beliefs, the history of their beliefs is themselves.

 

[GWH]

"Systematically" is anathema to the Bible tweet Barbies and Bible tweet Kens around here. To be avoided like the plague.

Yes, as we discovered the last time they took me up on the offer to study their pet tweets in context.
(I put the results on our website in Lesson 11.)

 

[rogerg]

Not necessarily. Many people are ignorant of the history of their beliefs.

I'm not "many people"

 

[Magenta]

If an individual independently comes to a set of beliefs, the history of their beliefs is themselves.

Free willers rely heavily on logical fallacies.

 

[GWH]

If an individual independently comes to a set of beliefs, the history of their beliefs is themselves.

Only if they pursue the truth with an open mind. Many do not question what they have been taught to believe from an early age.

 

[rogerg]

Yes, as we discovered the last time they took me up on the offer to study their pet tweets in context.
(I put the results on our website in Lesson 11.)

Why? As a demonstration of how not to interpret the Bible? You way overestimate your abilities and understanding.
In fact, I haven't seen you be correct about anything yet so better not to toot your own horn

 

[GWH]

I'm not "many people"

Would you like to share your testimony? (1Pet. 3:15)