Totally clueless! The bruising of Jesus' heel simply signifies the total failure of Satan (who has the power of death!) to keep Jesus in the grave. Whereas the crushing of Satan's head signifies Christ total victory over the grave and over the one who had the power of death. The megabytes of irony here is that Satan will become his own victim of death at the end of the age. Christ crushing his head will be fatal!
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Totally clueless! The bruising of Jesus' heel simply signifies the total failure of Satan (who has the power of death!) to keep Jesus in the grave. Whereas the crushing of Satan's head signifies Christ total victory over the grave and over the one who had the power of death. The megabytes of irony here is that Satan will become his own victim of death at the end of the age. Christ crushing his head will be fatal!
Not true.
We don't even struggle with you.
...................................... BORING BLINDED DOGMATISM!
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Here's the discussion, Rufus:
We know from Gen 15:6 and Rom 4:3 that God imputed righteousness to Abraham when Abraham believed:
Genesis 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
You have yet to provide Scriptural support for your answer to the question posited by ChristRoseFromTheDead:
Since we know righteousness is imputed and since, according to you, "a person [can] have another person's faith" ... "in the same way a person can have another person's righteousness" ... please provide Scripture which indicates that faith is imputed. thank you.
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Grace through Christ's faith, not man's faith. Christ was faithful to the Father which faith brought forth grace and salvation
What does that even mean? How can a person have another person's faith? Faith is being persuaded by and putting confidence in something someone says, in this particular case, the gospel.
In the same way a person can have another person's righteousness.
You don't have another person's righteousness. You have been credited with Christ's righteousness and you learn to walk in his righteousness and be conformed to his image as you obey his voice.
You're playing a bad game of semantics. Righteousness is a divine gift given to God's elect. Through the obedience of one man, the many were made righteous. So, yes, I have my Lord's righteousness imputed to my soul. By His merits, I am as righteous as He is! And since you don't believe this about yourself, it's very likely you're a stranger to God's grace.
Genesis 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
Abraham believed ... God imputed righteousness to Abraham.
Please provide the verse which states faith was imputed to Abraham. Thank you.
Abraham believed ... God imputed righteousness to Abraham.
Please provide the verse which states faith was imputed to Abraham. Thank you.
We know from Gen 15:6 and Rom 4:3 that God imputed righteousness to Abraham when Abraham believed:
Genesis 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
You have yet to provide Scriptural support for your answer to the question posited by ChristRoseFromTheDead:
What does that even mean? How can a person have another person's faith? Faith is being persuaded by and putting confidence in something someone says, in this particular case, the gospel.
In the same way a person can have another person's righteousness.
Since we know righteousness is imputed and since, according to you, "a person [can] have another person's faith" ... "in the same way a person can have another person's righteousness" ... please provide Scripture which indicates that faith is imputed. thank you.
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from Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible ... (maybe you'll believe him as Gill staunchly defended the Five Points of Calvinism) ... bold mine
And Mary said, behold the handmaid of the Lord,.... In which words she expresses her obedience of faith; she owns herself to be the handmaid of the Lord, and desires to obey him, and be submissive to him as such; and tacitly acknowledges her meanness, and great unworthiness:
be it unto me according to thy word; she assented to what the angel said should be unto her; she earnestly desired it might be, and firmly believed it would be; she set her "Amen" to the angel's message:
and the angel departed from her; to the heavenly regions from whence he came; to his great Lord and master, that sent him; having dispatched the business he came about, and which he was accountable to him for.
Mary is an example to all ... she was betrothed to Joseph ... the marriage had not been consummated ... yet she was going to give birth to a child. The parentage of the Lord Jesus Christ was thrown in His face (John 8). You may or may not know what a stigma Mary took on ... sad if you don't ... and doubly sad if you do, yet do not acknowledge God's grace in not only having Mary be the one to birth the Lord Jesus Christ, but also allowing her to express her doubt (Luke 1:34) as well as her faith in God's Word (Luke 1:38).
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They cannot differentiate between talking TO someone and talking ABOUT someone.
While wanting us to believe their understanding is superior. Which is quite pathetic, really. On both counts...
I agree that the crucifixion and resurrection and ascension fulfills Genesis 3:15 prophecy ... even though we do not yet see all things put under Him (Heb 2:8).
And I understand the Lord Jesus Christ willingly gave His life ... that no one took it from Him.
I understand satan/Judas was not in control of or causing the crucifixion.
I also understand that satan did not know the fullness of what God had purposed in eternity because had he known, he would not have crucified the Lord of glory (1 Cor 2:8).
The crucifixion was foretold long ago (Gen 22, Is 53, Psalm 16, Psalm 22) ... God never hid this and God proclaimed this from the time of Genesis.
However, what was not foretold in OT was what is spoken of in 1 Cor 2:7 ... this was hid in God from the beginning of the world (Eph 3). If satan had known, he would not have crucified the Lord Jesus Christ (1 Cor 2:8) ... and I still know that no one took His life ... He willingly went to the cross ... He could have had called out for 12 legions of angels ... He said But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be? (Matt 26:54). However, it is the resurrection and ascension of the Lord Jesus Christ which opened up the Heavenly Holy of Holies where all born again believers have access to come boldly to the throne of grace to obtain mercy and find grace in time of need. Prior to the death, resurrection, ascension, there was a breach between God and man. The Lord Jesus Christ filled the breach and He brings us into the very presence of the Father. We have no standing outside of Him. How great is the graciousness of God to bring us to Himself ... what a time we live in ... blessings upon blessings ...
Psalm 16:11 Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.
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Nice forensic analysis. Reformed doctrinal errors fallacies and absurdities are on display for all to see.
"I also understand that satan did not know the fullness of what God had purposed in eternity because had he known, he would not have crucified the Lord of glory (1 Cor 2:8)."
Yes. Satan did not know the fullness of God's purpose before the crucifixion.
But he did realize that his plan had failed, and he tried to go to plan "B" to try and do some further deceiving and damage control and even tried to PREVENT THE CRUXIFIXION.
Which is what this episode is all about:
[Mat 27:3 YLT]
Then Judas -- he who delivered him up -- having seen that he was condemned, having repented ("REGRETED" THAT HIS PLAN HAD FAILED), brought back the thirty silverlings to the chief priests, and to the elders, saying,
[Mat 27:4 YLT]
'I did sin, having delivered up innocent blood;' and they said, 'What -- to us? thou shalt see!'
[Mat 27:5 YLT]
and having cast down the silverlings in the sanctuary, he departed, and having gone away, he did strangle himself.
We can differentiate between talking to someone. And talking about someone, to the same one.
Mr. AI, did the Christian doctrine of total inability originate from Augustine's association with Manichaean gnosticism?
"Yes, the Christian doctrine of total inability is believed to have been influenced by Augustine's association with Manichaean Gnosticism, which taught that humans are inherently unable to choose good without divine intervention. Augustine adapted these ideas into his own theological framework, particularly regarding original sin and predestination."
Mr AI, does the Christian belief of total inability derive from the Manichaean gnostic belief that the material world was incapable of doing anything good?
"The Christian belief in total inability does share similarities with Manichaean Gnostic views, particularly in the belief that the material world is flawed. However, early Christian teachings emphasized free will, contrasting with the Gnostic perspective that denied human capacity for good due to inherent corruption. "
"Yes, the Christian doctrine of total inability is believed to have been influenced by Augustine's association with Manichaean Gnosticism, which taught that humans are inherently unable to choose good without divine intervention. Augustine adapted these ideas into his own theological framework, particularly regarding original sin and predestination."
Mr AI, does the Christian belief of total inability derive from the Manichaean gnostic belief that the material world was incapable of doing anything good?
"The Christian belief in total inability does share similarities with Manichaean Gnostic views, particularly in the belief that the material world is flawed. However, early Christian teachings emphasized free will, contrasting with the Gnostic perspective that denied human capacity for good due to inherent corruption. "
that was Judas ... not satan. satan was done with Judas and left him to stew in the mess he involved himself with.
satan was full steam ahead as far as going after the Lord Jesus Christ ... satan and his minions moved on to those who held the mockery of a trial. Those devil spirits unleashed all they could on the Lord Jesus Christ and He stood faithful ... He was oppressed, and He was afflicted, yet He opened not His mouth: He is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so He openeth He not his mouth ... they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands ... they falsely accused Him ... they mocked Him and smote Him on the head after placing a crown of thorns on Him ... they reviled Him ... they had Him crucified and had a murderer released ...
and the ones responsible for this blasphemous fiasco ??? ... they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover ... they thought themselves oh so clean ... smh
After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst. Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth. When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. (John 19:28-30).
Give our dear friend @posthuman a PM.
He will direct you to some resources better explaining this complex scenario.
Consider "Judas-Satan" as an exemplar of the seed of the serpent and a type of the anti-Christ.
I said the content was not all about the saved but he explained everything so we know that ALL MEN have a measure of Faith and since it takes Faith to KNOW GOD chapter 1 tells us of those who know God but reject God and ultimately become reprobate.Paul did NOT address his letter to the world. He addressed it to God's saints! You FWers really struggle with personal pronouns. Sometime you change them to impersonal pronouns. At another time you'll change them to people to whom Paul did not address his letter. You're the one who needs to get a clue!
Rom 1:7a, 12-13
7 To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints...
12 that is, that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each other's faith. 13 I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that I planned many times to come to you (but have been prevented from doing so until now) in order that I might have a harvest among you, just as I have had among the other Gentiles.
NIV
If the entire world has biblical faith and Paul addressed the entire world as his "brothers", then, yes, the entire world is loved by God, and called to be saints , then I suppose you could say that the epistle was addressed to the world, as Paul clearly would have believed in universal salvation.
You are the one interjecting what you think I said because you assume everything.
I understand why you do because if you knew God and reject God and become reprobate then you can lose your salvation.
AI, did the Christian doctrine of total inability originate from Paul?
Yes, the Christian doctrine of total inability is strongly supported by Paul's writings, especially in Romans ch 3,
Romans ch 7, Romans ch 8, and Ephesians ch 2, where he describes humanity's universal sinfulness and spiritual death, making
them incapable of seeking or pleasing God apart from His grace. The doctrine draws directly from these Pauline
passages to explain the pervasive effects of sin on human nature.
John 14 v 17a, Romans 8 v 6-9 ~ “Inability” in Bible. The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth. The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. Praise be to God for calling me out of the world.
Romans 7:18-24a I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my flesh; for I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do. Instead, I keep on doing the evil I do not want to do. And if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. So this is the principle I have discovered: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law. But I see another law at work in my body, warring against the law of my mind and holding me captive to the law of sin that dwells within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God, through Jesus Christ our Lord!
it's written when and where Satan entered Judas - - not said of anyone else in scripture - - but where is it said, that Satan left him?
remember Jesus calls him the son of perdition ((John 17:12)) and this is exactly the name of the antichrist ((2 Thessalonians 2:3)) who is to come.