Going by your logic, it won't be possible for God to judge the fallen angels righteously since God never offered them grace, which means they will never have the opportunity to respond to it.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Going by your logic, it won't be possible for God to judge the fallen angels righteously since God never offered them grace, which means they will never have the opportunity to respond to it.
Abraham, like all other saints, believed by grace! He wasn't different from any other sinner.
You cannot be this ignorant for real?I wasn't talking about Rom 1:21. I was referring to Rom 12:3 wherein the "measure of faith" that is given by God is given to his elect -- not the world. Romans was written to believers.
Romans 1 is about those knowing God and rejecting God so natural man is being discussed and all things both spiritually and physically.
You just keep making it up as you go.
The best part of this THREAD is that the Holy Ghost is WATCHING how you twist the words of God for your deception.
There's no winning with these empty suits who hug FWT so close to their bosoms. Judas was all in on doing what he did. He betrayed Christ quite willingly -- just as it was eternally destined for him to do. God wrote the script for Judas and Judas an actor on God's world stage agreed wholeheartedly to play his part. Man's ways are truly not in himself!
In the real world God rescues the dead by bringing them to life so that they can make a righteous choice. In the real world, the physically dead don't get to make any choices.
What!? How can you "want" a Saviour to save you when in your world you are oblivious to anything of God?
I think your the one having an each way bet here.
The very fact that you need to ask this question proves you don't have the first clue what the New Covenant is all about. The unilateral promises in the covenant is "how you can 'want' a Savior to save you...".
Prove your claim with scripture. Maybe they both got what they wanted! You know...consensual sex?
You are the solution.
Desiring sound doctrine, and praying to know sound doctrine, is the solution.
Pray to the Father in Jesus name for sound Bible doctrine for every area of your life.
The Father wants Christians to have that more than anything else in this life.
You must be willing to be corrected.
For God gives grace to the humble.
So the servants of the Lord must give their permission to Him before he brings his providence to bear upon them, heh? You truly have the tail wagging the dog -- the Body wagging the Head.
Which automatically cancels out the vast majority of the world that "God so loved...".
Evidently the Reformed crew is full of cheap nasty tricks. Like editing comments to suit their nefarious purposes.
AGAIN Romans 1 and Romans 12 is to the same audience!
You act like each chapter is a different Letter.
But it came on ONE SCROLL with no chapters and no Verses.
It's directed to EVERYONE!
Get a CLUE!
i don't think it can be, because no one takes His life from Him, but He lays it down Himself. Satan/Judas is not at all in control of or causing the crucifixion.
i believe the crucifixion is the crushing of the head of the Serpent seed.
Hebrews 2:14
.. that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,
Jesus crushed the head of the serpent with his heel so hard it bruised.
Bruising goes to show with what vehemence that head was crushed.
At Golgotha. Where Gol of Gath's (Goliaths) head was buried by David.
Right on top of it signifying the "crushing of the head" of the seed of the serpent.
Paul did NOT address his letter to the world. He addressed it to God's saints! You FWers really struggle with personal pronouns. Sometime you change them to impersonal pronouns. At another time you'll change them to people to whom Paul did not address his letter. You're the one who needs to get a clue!
Rom 1:7a, 12-13
7 To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints...
12 that is, that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each other's faith. 13 I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that I planned many times to come to you (but have been prevented from doing so until now) in order that I might have a harvest among you, just as I have had among the other Gentiles.
NIV
If the entire world has biblical faith and Paul addressed the entire world as his "brothers", then, yes, the entire world is loved by God, and called to be saints , then I suppose you could say that the epistle was addressed to the world, as Paul clearly would have believed in universal salvation.