Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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You didn't answer the question I asked. You dodged it, just like you always do when you can't answer.
You asked about John being in the womb and I answered you knowing the verse in Luke and I explained why it was that way. You just wanted a typical reformed response but I gave you biblical truth instead.
 
Nor is it about what you think. Included were verses that say contrary to your belief and substantiate mine, and you don't like that - but nevertheless, they say what they say. Read them again and weep.

Not only did He include Gentiles but that HE GAVE THEM REPENTANCE, along
with the other verses I included that demonstrate repentance is only given by God, not man - apparently, you are unable to comprehend that.
The reason I know you don't understand those verses because you believe in election. Those verses say God gave the Gentiles Repentance. The way you are explaining it would mean God gave all Gentiles Repentance. Is EVERY GENTILE TODAY SAVED BECAUSE GOD GAVE THEM REPENTANCE? IT'S ONLY 8 BILLION GENTILES CURRENTLY. ARE THEY ALL GIVEN REPENTANCE?
 
Nor is it about what you think. Included were verses that say contrary to your belief and substantiate mine, and you don't like that - but nevertheless, they say what they say. Read them again and weep.

Not only did He include Gentiles but that HE GAVE THEM REPENTANCE, along
with the other verses I included that demonstrate repentance is only given by God, not man - apparently, you are unable to comprehend that.
Also if you read the verses before the Gentiles spoke in tongues and the Holy Ghost overcome them. Then those who witness knew that God gave the Gentiles Repentance.

In the Bible those who spoke in Tongues were saved. Have you ever spoke in tongues?
 
He is Eternal and His being is fully outside of time.
God created time.
The supernatural side is definitely something wonderful, but when you look how complex creation is, you see exactly why we as his children really are something so wonderful to his imagination,

Life is precious really, we should look to being thankful for even being alive, theres just comes a point in life where you live graciously I think
 
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You crack me up Brother :ROFL:
ok so talking about pursuing and regeneration, or would a better word be refurbishment


1 Peter 3:10-11 — In Search of peace
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For, “Whoever would love life and see good days must keep their tongue from evil and their lips from deceitful speech. They must turn from evil and do good; they must seek peace and pursue it.”

Don't forget to see it's talking about loving life, ( Jesus)
 
Because being spiritually alive is no guarantee of believing the word of God. Just ask Adam. The issue of acceptance or rejection is made from the soul therefore the soul must be revealed for what it is. When that revelation is made from a position of weakness (ie. a sinner) how much more glorious is that, hence the angels rejoice over the repentance of one sinner. :)


Before he fell?

Satan was spiritually alive.

He was very free to reject.

Some believe that God has to regenerate us before we will believe?
 
Because being spiritually alive is no guarantee of believing the word of God. Just ask Adam. The issue of acceptance or rejection is made from the soul therefore the soul must be revealed for what it is. When that revelation is made from a position of weakness (ie. a sinner) how much more glorious is that, hence the angels rejoice over the repentance of one sinner. :)
Here's the guarantee:

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. -- John 10:27-28 ESV
 
You asked about John being in the womb and I answered you knowing the verse in Luke and I explained why it was that way. You just wanted a typical reformed response but I gave you biblical truth instead.
You explained, but I asked for Biblical proof of that. You provided none. Just you saying it doesn't make it so. You wouldn't know Biblical proof if it snuck up on you.
 
ok so talking about pursuing and regeneration, or would a better word be refurbishment


1 Peter 3:10-11 — In Search of peace
200831-Sunset.jpeg

For, “Whoever would love life and see good days must keep their tongue from evil and their lips from deceitful speech. They must turn from evil and do good; they must seek peace and pursue it.”

Don't forget to see it's talking about loving life, ( Jesus)

Yes...
Think of what salvation means.
Ever been to a salvage yard?

Salvation is God is salvaging us.
Making us more and more functional as He intended, as long as we keep the repairs being fixed with sound doctrinal thinking.
 
One thing is for sure, knowing about God by reading scripture or being taught is entirely different than knowing and being known by God.

Some have both, some have the first, but not the latter.

The more sound doctrine we possess, frees up God to move us along in our thinking.
 
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You explained, but I asked for Biblical proof of that. You provided none. Just you saying it doesn't make it so. You wouldn't know Biblical proof if it snuck up on you.
Magenta did and you know the Angel talking to Zachariah is in the Bible.
 
Before he fell?

Satan was spiritually alive.

He was very free to reject.

Some believe that God has to regenerate us before we will believe?
I don't know genez, the spiritual warfare takes place everyday is something we all need help with understanding.

My two cents, We need to br born again for compete regeneration and we need regeneration before hand I believe, but I've just posted regeneration after being born again as well

1 Peter 3:10-11 — In Search of Peace
200831-Sunset.jpeg

For, “Whoever would love life and see good days must keep their tongue from evil and their lips from deceitful speech. They must turn from evil and do good; they must seek peace and pursue it.”
 
Yes...
Think of what salvation means.
Ever been to a salvage yard?

Salvation is God is salvaging us.
Making us more and more functional as He intended, as long as we keep the repairs being fixed with sound doctrinal thinking.
You meant to say unsound heretical thinking. Because that's what this is.
 
The more sound doctrine we possess, frees up God to move us along in our thinking.

Amen, so very true, I have been meaning to post this for so long, but did not really know how to capture it succinctly,

I love the way you have captured it.
 
Also if you read the verses before the Gentiles spoke in tongues and the Holy Ghost overcome them. Then those who witness knew that God gave the Gentiles Repentance.

In the Bible those who spoke in Tongues were saved. Have you ever spoke in tongues?

No, but I believe in Jesus, and Jesus alone as Savior, do you?
 
One thing is for sure, knowing about God by reading scripture or being taught is entirely different than knowing and being known by God.

Some have both, some have the first, but not the latter.
You have made plain you do not have the latter. And the former is pretty much useless without it.

Also of note is that Jesus said the world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth. Just one more thing for you to deny.

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Matthew 11 verse 27 ~ All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him.
 
Here's the guarantee:

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. -- John 10:27-28 ESV

That guarantee is that Jesus will never fail us. Are you guaranteeing you will never fail? Everything you believe is the truth, never need correction about anything?

Must be wonderful to live such a life. :)
 
Yes...
Think of what salvation means.
Ever been to a salvage yard?

Salvation is God is salvaging us.
Making us more and more functional as He intended, as long as we keep the repairs being fixed with sound doctrinal thinking.
Well I believe savage starts from the day your born, but I've never known a child that was was free from selfishness.
I hardly meet many people who can always be humble when they lose something. Well not at first anyway
 
Before he fell?

Satan was spiritually alive.

He was very free to reject.

Some believe that God has to regenerate us before we will believe?

You'd think that "irresistible" grace would have prevented that rejection, after all it is suppose to guarantee sinners see sense, how much more should it have made a perfect creature (before his fall) see the error of his ways? :)
 
Well I believe savage starts from the day your born, but I've never known a child that was was free from selfishness.
I hardly meet many people who can always be humble when they lose something. Well not at first anyway

I think you missed this part:

as long as we keep the repairs being fixed with sound doctrinal thinking.

When one is not thinking with the truth, the screws are loose and there is no repair. This is why not all Christians are the upstanding people they should be, not all abide in the truth but live by their opinions and own desires.
 
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