Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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John 3 verse 27~ “A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.” John 1 3 verses 12-13~ To all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God - children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God. John 6 3 verse 44~ “No man can come to me except the Father, which hath sent me, draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.” Romans 9 3 verse 16~ So then, it does not depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. Romans 8 3 verse 16~ The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.
No you haven't. You have a man dead and alive at the same time. How is that possible? If one is not saved at regeneration he is still dead in his sin. Spiritually alive and spiritually dead simultaneously. He may as well be Schrodinger's cat.
There you go again misrepresenting what we believe. I knew you'd continue to misrepresent. There's no point in continuing any discussion with you if you're just going to lie about what we believe.
Galatians 3 does pretty well explaining what we do in order to be considered as Abraham's descendants.
Sons through Faith in Christ
26You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.
Good, go away then. You bring nothing but accusations in your posts anyway. They teach nothing and edify no-one.
Spiritual life isn't the same as eternal life. Adam was spiritually alive and did not possess eternal life before the fall.
Made spiritually alive, but not save until the point of belief (choice), yes.
You needed correction to stop misrepresenting what we believe. Clearly you aren't going to take that.
For those whom Christ died, they will most certainly come to saving faith! You truly are estranged from the Power of The Cross, aren't you? True born again believers can indeed say unabashedly that Christ actually atoned for their sins, which is the same thing you FWers falsely claim for the entire world. What you FWers should say is that Christ potentially atoned for the sins of all people in the world, making salvation possible for everyone. That would be truthful.
I posted what it is I believe FW'ers believe. If that's wrong, I'm open to correction.
There's that love you spoke about. Oh wait, no it isn't. Exactly what I expected. You have a nice day.
The lies continue. They'll never end.There it is again, He elects the elect. Double election nonsense.
Oh Cameron! Saved from the penalty of sin? and pray tell us what is the penalty of sin?
But we aren't the Elected of the Bible so quit fibbing and claiming we are. We're mere Remnants of Remnants of Remnants of Remnants of Remnants.
Oh Cameron! Saved from the penalty of sin? and pray tell us what is the penalty of sin?
The second death is the penalty of sin:
[Rev 20:6, 14 KJV] 6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. ...
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Well...here's a newsflash for you: God give his grace to only the humble -- not to a proud, arrogant, God-hating world.