It is not the first time a FWer has denied that Christians are called out of the world.
Their beliefs are so at odds with what Scripture actually teaches!
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Their beliefs are so at odds with what Scripture actually teaches!
What's typical of you FWers is that you fail to make the distinction between those IN this world and those OF this world.
Also, the fact remains that John unequivocally said that the 'whole world" is under the control of the evil one, which would INCLUDE YOU as well, since you believe that the phrase "whole world" = all mankind in the distributive sense. You didn't know you were in such close fellowship with your spiritual, serpentine father, did you?
Like applying yourself to the ancient Hebrew Jew whenever Paul wrote about the Elect, the Chosen, Foreknew and so forth?
In the world doesn't mean part of the world. If God gave you victory but you walk in defeat you keep yourself to the world and its ruler.
Indeed
your ability to avoid believing what’s there , based on what you think already that’s contrary …..is astounding “My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.”
1 John 2:1-5 KJV
This is what a discussion with some of you is like
“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.”
1 Timothy 2:3-4 KJV
“ but that doesn’t mean all men “
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
John 3:16 KJV
“That doesn’t really mean the world “
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16
“That doesn’t really mean every person … let me explain….”
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
2 Peter 3:9 KJV
“ that doesn’t mean all let me explain “
It’s very circular and never moves even an inch
“For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”
John 3:17
Paul wrote about election in the book of Ephesians. He referred to them as...us. Who do you suppose...us...is in Ephesus?
He wrote to the Jews in Ephesus much like he had Timothy get physically circumcised to reach the Jews.
Indeed
“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.”
1 John 2:1-5 KJV
This is what a discussion with some of you is like
“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.”
1 Timothy 2:3-4 KJV
“ but that doesn’t mean all men “
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
John 3:16 KJV
“That doesn’t really mean the world “
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16
“That doesn’t really mean every person … let me explain….”
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
2 Peter 3:9 KJV
“ that doesn’t mean all let me explain “
It’s very circular and never moves even an inch
Well done!
Sir Judgment has more than one meaning for person under judgement other than condemning.
The fact that your using this excuse t is also pretty much not accepting.
The fact your still choosing to hold to your incident baby excuse is also not accepting.
The fact you haven't acknowledged the beautiful things I said about an innocent baby and then still favoring to call me out is also not accepting
Also sir the fact that you want to not accept that your not born under any judgment makes you and others the worst type determinist there is, made worse because your faith is using the I'm innocent baby approach and how dare you attack innocence.
No sir that's not your innocence that's your inability to accept.
That's also how determinists operate , they determine that human innocence is above God's Judgment.
C'mon, Rog, you know how FWers will answer! FREEWILL "maketh thee to differ|" because their DEI/EOE god gives grace universally to all mankind w/o exception that "frees" up everyone's sacred volition to accept or reject the gospel of forgiveness-- even though God gives grace only to the humble. So, now FWers must also believe that every single person in this world w/o exception comes into it humble, meek, mild and lowly. In short, all wicked humanity naturally emulates Christ so that they can access that universal grace.
Quite the web of deceitfulness the FWers have spun for themselves...
“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:27-29 KJV
Christ is the chosen one and those “ in him “ become the children of God….are conformed to children through the only begotten. Who was predetermined before the creation.
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
believing is salvation
“There is always hope for the lost while they're still breathing in this age..”
amen . We found an agreement .