Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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HeIsHere said:
Since this god has is "elect" already figured out He needs no impetus.
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Whatever are you on about? God is the prime mover. What impetus are you talking about?

Is this another one of your blasphemies against God? Maybe just a new take on one of your older ones.
 
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The free will camp claim is that the unregenerated man is free to choose to believe that which he can neither receive nor comprehend and to which he is inherently opposed because his incurably wicked heart hates God and hears the gospel as foolishness. There is simply no getting around the fact that this is the core of their belief, and it flies in the face of what Scripture actually teaches about those blinded to truth and under the power and influence of Satan. Praise the Lord if He has set you free!
 
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Cameron143 said:
Romans 8:28.
From a human perspective it is tragic, but not from God's perspective. And that's what he's talking about. What if her experience secures a far greater weight in glory or is the impetus for the salvation of another. We see a few threads; God sees the finished fabric.
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Not tragic from God's perspective. :rolleyes:
 
cv5 said:
Nope. What he WAS talking about is how the little girl deserved God's wrath (a horrific claim as she was of the age of innocence, whom God immediately redeems as righteous), and how HE does not.....cuz....."Reformed theology" pre-birth election immunity claims.

Somebody needs to tell Sproul that Jesus sheds tears on multiple occasions for the casualties of sin.....for real (perhaps you think they were fake tears for the camera?), unlike Sproul Jr. who rather than shed tears, condemned this little girl as a depraved eeeeevil sinner who got what "she had earned" aka richly deserved.

So now who are the group on this thread that likewise CEASLESSLY condemns all those not in the Reformed elite club as "evil reprobate depraved natural man blind deaf faithless sinners who God hates"? Did you want me to make a list of the pejoratives? There are many.

Any identities crop up in your mind.......:unsure:
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I think this confirms how this "doctrine" affects people.
As someone stated, and it proves to be true on here and in Sproul's Jr response, there is a heartlessness to Calvinism that is tragic.

Sproul Jr. stated very clearly she received the judgement from God she had earned.
Has there been any condemnation of this statement on this thread.
There has been NONE.
 
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