Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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So your choice is to bear false witness against us. FYI, Southern Baptists are a small minority of reformed, and there are many variations of reformed doctrine. If you cared to stop bearing false witness, you could just google a little bit and easily find that out. It's a shame you'd rather live in your lies than find the truth.
You say there are variations.
That means there's one true Reformed Standard and many disagreements to it.
And you expect me to know them all rather than just to know the one true Reformed Standard.
Why would I do that?
 
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I wish that were true.
There are a number of things you wish weren't true even though Scripture proclaims them.

Now don't go pretending I said reformed theology are words in the Bible.

I know you have a habit of doing such things.
 
I hear you sister. Believe me I hear you.....

[Luk 11:42 KJV]
But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Ruined my day.
So vile a comment by Sproul.
This is the fruit of this doctrine plain as day, but they will deny or try to soften it up which makes it all the worse.
And they call us heretics!!
 
I think of it would Jesus have done that?
No, He would not have.
Jesus would have instructed us speak to each appropriately in matter of discussing faith that is sir.

Sir I don't think people of a certain faith here are being horrible or radical, it's not appropriate that they should be treated as if they are sir.

determism of the wrong sought sir can only be found, in a couldn't care less attitude, which they are not guilty of sir.

Whilst members can an will make any sect look bad I haven't seen that, I've even looked at many other threads what people are being accused of here and have replied in sir. This self determism attitude does not exist there sir.

You have to ask why does it exist here sir

Your really favoring the wrong ideas here sir as people are intent in making people here to look as if there from a twisted sect.

And even telling them they should abandon there faith all together, a faith that is completely right when it's comes to state of man's fallen condition sir.

But hey do what's being done quite a lot and carry on
 
Ruined my day.
So vile a comment by Sproul.
This is the fruit of this doctrine plain as day, but they will deny or try to soften it up which makes it all the worse.
And they call us heretics!!
And how did Jr. "soften it up"?

By loveless LEGALISM of the Pharisaic kind.
 
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You can look these things up easily. I believe Ephesians 1:4 and Deuteronomy 7:6-8.
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From Ephesians 1 verses 4-6 ~ He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless in His presence. In love He predestined us for adoption as His sons through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of His glorious grace, which He has freely given us in the Beloved One.
 
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Ruined my day.
So vile a comment by Sproul.
This is the fruit of this doctrine plain as day, but they will deny or try to soften it up which makes it all the worse.
And they call us heretics!!
Yes, you are a Pelagian heretic.

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Pelagian heretics insist man is inherently good. From within the hearts of men come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, wickedness, deceit, debauchery, envy, slander, arrogance, and foolishness. Mark 7 verses 21-22 Every inclination of man's heart is evil from his youth. Genesis 8 verse 21b Who can bring out clean from unclean? No one! Job 14 verse 4 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Matthew 7 verse 18
 
You say there are variations.
That means there's one true Reformed Standard and many disagreements to it.
No, there is no "one true Reformed Standard." Whoever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about.
And you expect me to know them all rather than just to know the one true Reformed Standard.
All you had to do was a little research. You won't, so here, let me do it for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformed_confessions_of_faith
Why would I do that?
Because you would rather know the truth instead of a lie? Perhaps you would like to not bear false witness against your neighbor, but so far that does not seem to be the case.
 
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@NightTwister

Cameron alerted me that he and others do witness and share the Gospel. From your posts I am believing that you are a part of that belief and witness yourself. And I only truly know what the real concrete Tenants of the Reformed Doctrine are and obviously very unfamiliar with the variations to it.

That being said it's not my desire to lump you into the one true Reformed Doctrine Standard. Honestly, the more I think about the variations probability I am comforted because I clearly disagree with one true Reformed Standard myself.

I do acknowledge your words and position and wish to apologize to anyone who holds to a VARIATION belief to the Standard Reformed Doctrine. I am quite pleased to know and understand that it's possible for many people to be holding this position.
 
@Jordon
I have noticed that you address people as sir. That is an admirable thing to do!
However, I would like to know, does that come from the way in which your parents raised you, or perhaps the military? Just curious...
 
Romans 8:28.
From a human perspective it is tragic, but not from God's perspective. And that's what he's talking about. What if her experience secures a far greater weight in glory or is the impetus for the salvation of another. We see a few threads; God sees the finished fabric.

Since this god has is "elect" already figured out He needs no impetus.
I give you credit though for stepping into the quagmire, there is no glory here. Zero!
 
@NightTwister

Cameron alerted me that he and others do witness and share the Gospel. From your posts I am believing that you are a part of that belief and witness yourself. And I only truly know what the real concrete Tenants of the Reformed Doctrine are and obviously very unfamiliar with the variations to it.

That being said it's not my desire to lump you into the one true Reformed Doctrine Standard. Honestly, the more I think about the variations probability I am comforted because I clearly disagree with one true Reformed Standard myself.

I do acknowledge your words and position and wish to apologize to anyone who holds to a VARIATION belief to the Standard Reformed Doctrine. I am quite pleased to know and understand that it's possible for many people to be holding this position.
There is no "One True Reformed Doctrine" or "One True Reformed Standard" that you keep talking about. I gave you a place where you could research this for yourself and you refused to look at it based on the speed of your reply. You prefer to hold on to a lie rather than know the truth.