Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[lrs68]

Jesus would have instructed us speak to each appropriately in matter of discussing faith that is sir.

Sir I don't think people of a certain faith here are being horrible or radical, it's not appropriate that they should be treated as if they are sir.

determism of the wrong sought sir can only be found, in a couldn't care less attitude, which they are not guilty of sir.

Whilst members can an will make any sect look bad I haven't seen that, I've even looked at many other threads what people are being accused of here and have replied in sir. This self determism attitude does not exist there sir.

You have to ask why does it exist here sir

Your really favoring the wrong ideas here sir as people are intent in making people here to look as if there from a twisted sect.

And even telling them they should abandon there faith all together, a faith that is completely right when it's comes to state of man's fallen condition sir.

But hey do what's being done quite a lot and carry on

It really comes down to the definition of the natural man without God.

If we believe God will save him if He chose him versus here's someone who needs God really projects how we look at people.

Doctrine actually speaks louder than someone who makes a claim because if you do things this way then why do you follow this type of Doctrine.

 

[lrs68]

There is no "One True Reformed Doctrine" or "One True Reformed Standard" that you keep talking about. I gave you a place where you could research this for yourself and you refused to look at it based on the speed of your reply. You prefer to hold on to a lie rather than know the truth.

I am going by the Tenants of the Reformed Platform created by Alexander and refined by Calvin.

But I see there's a real discourse now compared to then.

 

[Cameron143]

Since this god has is "elect" already figured out He needs no impetus.
I give you credit though for stepping into the quagmire, there is no glory here. Zero!

Oh I get it.
Don't you believe God uses human agency? One plants? One waters?

No comment on the rest?

 

[Jordon]

It really comes down to the definition of the natural man without God.

If we believe God will save him if He chose him versus here's someone who needs God really projects how we look at people.

Doctrine actually speaks louder than someone who makes a claim because if you do things this way then why do you follow this type of Doctrine.

sir it's not rocket science, everyone gets the opportunity which should include everyone is chosen sir

 

[Jordon]

@Jordon
I have noticed that you address people as sir. That is an admirable thing to do!
However, I would like to know, does that come from the way in which your parents raised you, or perhaps the military? Just curious...

that's probably the American in me sir can't help it

The land of freedom does.indeed have honour, my parents friends and family where of the military.

I believe it's important to make people feel important when we discuss matters that can be quite personal.

Addressing people as sir or madam is polite starter that always should always give the respect it deserves.

 

[NightTwister]

I am going by the Tenants of the Reformed Platform created by Alexander and refined by Calvin.

But I see there's a real discourse now compared to then.

What matters is today, not the 16th Century. You should catch up.

 

[cv5]

Romans 8:28.
From a human perspective it is tragic, but not from God's perspective. And that's what he's talking about.

Nope. What he WAS talking about is how the little girl deserved God's wrath (a horrific claim as she was of the age of innocence, whom God immediately redeems as righteous), and how HE does not.....cuz....."Reformed theology" pre-birth election immunity claims.

Somebody needs to tell Sproul that Jesus sheds tears on multiple occasions for the casualties of sin.....for real (perhaps you think they were fake tears for the camera?), unlike Sproul Jr. who rather than shed tears, condemned this little girl as a depraved eeeeevil sinner who got what "she had earned" aka richly deserved.

So now who are the group on this thread that likewise CEASLESSLY condemns all those not in the Reformed elite club as "evil reprobate depraved natural man blind deaf faithless sinners who God hates"? Did you want me to make a list of the pejoratives? There are many.

Any identities crop up in your mind.......

 

[cv5]

It really comes down to the definition of the natural man without God.

Debunked. And really, that's all they've got.

There are wrong interpretations of two kinds:
mis-interpretations
mal-interpretations

One is mistaken and unintentional.
The other is malicious and intentional.

 

[Magenta]

Oh I get it.
Don't you believe God uses human agency? One plants? One waters?

No comment on the rest?

1 Corinthians 3 v 6-7~ I planted the seed and Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God Who makes things grow.

 

[cv5]

There is no "One True Reformed Doctrine" or "One True Reformed Standard" that you keep talking about. I gave you a place where you could research this for yourself and you refused to look at it based on the speed of your reply. You prefer to hold on to a lie rather than know the truth.

Really? Well maybe they don't know what they are talking about if they can't get it straight after 1000 years.

 

[Magenta]

What matters is today, not the 16th Century. You should catch up.

One of these free willers' fave pastimes is concocting logical fallacies...
and trying to stick us with their repeated misrepresentations.

 

[Intersection]

Galatians 5:20
Idolatry, witchcrafts, enmities, contentions, emulations, wraths, quarrels, dissensions, sects.

 

[Cameron143]

Nope. What he WAS talking about is how the little girl deserved God's wrath (a horrific claim as she was of the age of innocence, whom God immediately redeems as righteous), and how HE does not.....cuz....."Reformed theology" pre-birth election immunity claims.

Somebody needs to tell Sproul that Jesus sheds tears on multiple occasions for the casualties of sin.....for real (perhaps you think they were fake tears for the camera?), unlike Sproul Jr. who rather than shed tears, condemned this little girl as a depraved eeeeevil sinner who got what "she had earned" aka richly deserved.

So now who are the group on this thread that likewise CEASLESSLY condemns all those not in the Reformed elite club as "evil reprobate depraved natural man blind deaf faithless sinners who God hates"? Did you want me to make a list of the pejoratives? There are many.

Any identities crop up in your mind.......

Wrong again. You have quite the streak going.

 

[Intersection]

No, there is no "one true Reformed Standard." Whoever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about.

All you had to do was a little research. You won't, so here, let me do it for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformed_confessions_of_faith

Because you would rather know the truth instead of a lie? Perhaps you would like to not bear false witness against your neighbor, but so far that does not seem to be the case.

There is no such thing as reformed theology.

2 Timothy 4:3
For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.

 

[Magenta]

2 Timothy 4:3 For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but,
according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.

Colossians 2 v 8, Romans 16 v 18, Romans 10 v 2, Proverbs 19 v 2a ~ See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. For I testify about them that they are zealous for God, but not on the basis of knowledge. Zeal is no good without knowledge. They teach as doctrine the precepts of men.

 

[Magenta]

that's probably the American in me sir can't help it

The land of freedom does.indeed have honour, my parents friends and family where of the military.

I believe it's important to make people feel important when we discuss matters that can be quite personal.

Addressing people as sir or madam is polite starter that always should always give the respect it deserves.

Americans are not normally known for their courteous manners. In fact there was
a time when smart Americans would travel under the guise of being Canadians.

 

[Intersection]

Colossians 2 v 8, Romans 16 v 18, Romans 10 v 2, Proverbs 19 v 2a ~ See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. For I testify about them that they are zealous for God, but not on the basis of knowledge. Zeal is no good without knowledge. They teach as doctrine the precepts of men.

1 Timothy 1:10
For fornicators, for them who defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and whatever other thing is contrary to sound doctrine.

 

[NightTwister]

One of these free willers' fave pastimes is concocting logical fallacies...
and trying to stick us with their repeated misrepresentations.

They have significantly more disagreements in their camp. Eye, meet log.

 

[BillyBob]

Americans are not normally known for their courteous manners. In fact there was
a time when smart Americans would travel under the guise of being Canadians.

Sadly, I agree. Jordan's way of addressing people is the exception and certainly not the norm!

 

[NightTwister]

There is no such thing as reformed theology.

2 Timothy 4:3
For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.

There's no such thing as Intersection.