Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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It is. We were chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world. We are made a member of the body of Christ when we are saved.I am sure that is in scripture somewhere.
God chose to make a great nation out of Abraham. He created Israel from his descendants.
I am repeating what was told to me when I asked if they follow what Jesus commanded about making disciples. If they answer, like they did it's not their job then how is it false witness to say what they told me?
No, it's not. It's false witness to attribute what they said to us. If that's actually what they're saying about reformed theology, they're misrepresenting it. Stop putting that on us, or continue to bear false witness. The *choice* is yours.
There is no such thing as reformed theology.
2 Timothy 4:3
For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.
2 Timothy 4:3
For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.
They claim to be Reformed and honestly according to my Southern Baptist friends there's only ONE Reformed Doctrine. So if they claim something it's not a mistake on my part to believe it could be a general belief.
You can look these things up easily. I believe Ephesians 1:4 and Deuteronomy 7:6-8.
Ok so the way to go then is to have no mercy,. And have all out war.
Repay remark with remark. One would think a heart of stone still exists.
Quite childish sir, people should know better.
Faithfulness and faith are two different concepts.
But faith always precedes the new birth, always.
In scripture there is not one place where regeneration precedes faith.
God's plan of redemption, not the erroneous Canons of Dort.
So your choice is to bear false witness against us. FYI, Southern Baptists are a small minority of reformed, and there are many variations of reformed doctrine. If you cared to stop bearing false witness, you could just google a little bit and easily find that out. It's a shame you'd rather live in your lies than find the truth.
@HeIsHere
The reference that Cameron provided you in post #11,970 is easy to explain.
You notice the verse from Deuteronomy 7:6-8?
Then notice Ephesians 1:4?
Paul is writing to the Jews at Ephesus [and we see this a lot from Paul] but he uses a content that the Jews of his day would easily recognize. Jews of Paul's day would immediately know Deuteronomy 7:6-8 so when the Jews read what Paul writes in Ephesians 1:4 they will immediately go to Deuteronomy as a reference.
The reference that Cameron provided you in post #11,970 is easy to explain.
You notice the verse from Deuteronomy 7:6-8?
Then notice Ephesians 1:4?
Paul is writing to the Jews at Ephesus [and we see this a lot from Paul] but he uses a content that the Jews of his day would easily recognize. Jews of Paul's day would immediately know Deuteronomy 7:6-8 so when the Jews read what Paul writes in Ephesians 1:4 they will immediately go to Deuteronomy as a reference.
1 Whosoever are servants under the yoke, let them count their masters worthy of all honour; lest the name of the Lord and his doctrine be blasphemed. 2 But they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but serve them the rather, because they are faithful and beloved, who are partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. 3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to that doctrine which is according to godliness 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but sick about questions and strifes of words; from which arise envies, contentions, blasphemies, evil suspicions, 5 Conflicts of men corrupted in mind, and who are destitute of the truth, supposing gain to be godliness.
Well then, explain the difference in "concepts"
No, faith doesn't precede, that would be impossible. A spiritually dead person cannot believe.
They must first be made spiritually alive and that comes with rebirth,
I know, that's your belief, but it is incorrect.
But whichever word you choose to use, you nevertheless agree that it occurs at rebirth, right?
A volatile admixture of ignorance, pride and denial. Bashing of Israel and OT saints is in the mix too.
Acts 10:40-45
40 Him God raised up on the third day, and showed Him openly, 41 not to all the people, but to witnesses chosen before by God, even to us who ate and drank with Him after He arose from the dead. 42 And He commanded us to preach to the people, and to testify that it is He who was ordained by God to be Judge of the living and the dead. 43 To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins.” 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also.
I believe that the scripture above explains perfectly that these Gentiles were brought to faith [not because of anything in themselves], but because the Holy Spirit had been poured out on them! Both their faith and belief were given to them as a gift by the Grace of God.
So stop trying to peddle your lies concerning man's abilities.........