Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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But proud people never receive God's rescuing grace because that grace is given by God to His humble elect in eternity. It's not given to his elect in just temporal reality. All sinners desperately need the power of God's grace in to to be saved; but God clearly doesn't give that grace to all! Of course, I explained yesterday how God's elect were qualified by God to receive His precious grace in my 9963.
The Arminian has no problem seeing, or accepting, the exclusive love of God in the Old Testament for the nation of Israel
False. God's love was by no means exclusive to Israel. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact Israel was God's salvation program back then, by which men could obtain covenant promises and life. Because God loved the gentiles back then just as He does now.
And many DID choose the God of Israel back then.
This error is now becoming standardized Calvinist false doctrine.
I have asked for a definition ... only to be told "it's difficult to come up with a working definition since it is not a Biblical concept".
you throw the term around ... surely you have a definition ???
please enlighten us and "define "FWer" for us".
shrug ... don't know, since those who throw the term around have yet to define the term.Rufus said:
believer in the Lord Jesus Christ ... a member in particular placed by God in the body of the Lord Jesus Christ as it has pleased Him ... the one body over which the Lord Jesus Christ is the Head.Rufus said:
now ... how about you "Define yourself!" ...
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You are not understanding.
Being proud is not limited to the unbeliever.
Legalistic believers are saved.
Not all of them, of course.
NO.... But when Jonah was told to preach to the degenerate, depraved, war-like Ninevites, it was a missionary journey.
Saul was commanded by God to have a preemptive attack on what God knew would be a problem for Israel.
It speaks to this whole error we see being repeatedly "voiced" in here, that nothing in Scripture
attests to man's inability, when in fact there are quite a few verses that address this very thing,
though the people who contradict and deny what the Bible says refuse to acknowledge such.
I wonder that they can keep repeating the same lies after the truth has been shown to them.
They must adhere to their false doctrine or throw it over for the truth. They prefer their false doctrine.
Knowing you will believe is not the same as choosing you to believe which is what the reformed mob teach.
It's means, he already knows your whole life before your born, even the time when he says to whoever I never knew you.
You could look at that scripture and think hang on a minute here is some one who the lord never knew at all. But you must remember even if that was so, it could have been put forward with different meanings, one being you don't get to know Jesus until the father is ready to hand you over.
Or it could be something else, I believe one of the interpretations is based upon those who will cry out for the lord but he won't listen,
Refering to those who think they know the lord, but they really don't because they haven't been handed over to the son from the father.
Also there's another interpretation that indicates when lord says gets away from me I never knew it's quite possibly leaning towards his return, as in those days refering to his return when many will say lord lord.
So it may even be refering to a future tense,
Saul was commanded to kill King Agag, and not necessarily all the Amalekites. Also, the commandment is to remember to forget Amalek who is associated as an enemy of Israel, and to not forget what he did. That is, ambushing and attacking Israel. Of course, God defends the legacy of those that love Him and so wouldn't support any of His enemies.
Some in here claim everyone hears. However, that is decidedly NOT what Scripture teaches.
John 10 verses 27-28 My sheep hear My voice, I know them and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them out of My hand.
John 10 verses 27-28 My sheep hear My voice, I know them and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them out of My hand.
The problem?.......The reformed/calvies/tulips look at them as pre-selected for the LoF. They are not the "Chosen."
And never look at the chance after chance of GRACE.
it looks like you've missed a lot or perhaps your blissfully lazy daisy
Would you prefer if I don't judge bad inappropriate behaviour and just turn a blind eye ?
I'm not sure I understand you. Anyone who is saved have been chosen
Who's the reformed mob btw.
Sounds like you've been watching to many mafia movies.