Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Cameron143 said:
Please answer the question: on what basis does God cast someone into the Lake of Fire if all sin has been atoned for?
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EVIL/HUMAN GOOD/DEEDS.

Sin is finished.

Rev 20:12
And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.
 
Kroogz said:
EVIL/HUMAN GOOD/DEEDS.

Sin is finished.

Rev 20:12
And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.
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He thinks sins are deeds.

And, he is always doing his deed for the day.

(I hate it when he is bored.... he creates ways to argue)
 
Kroogz said:
EVIL/HUMAN GOOD/DEEDS.

Sin is finished.

Rev 20:12
And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.
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Judging by deeds is no different than Judging one's sins. It's a distinction without a difference.
 
Cameron143 said:
God didn't accept Jesus' payment for everyone? This is a new position for you. Glad you are coming around. You just may get there.
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As usual you fail to comprehend the depth and breath of the situation, stuck in a rut. Pretty typical for you actually.

The all-encompassing truth is as follows:
The basis of anyone's salvation is predicated upon a legal settlement agreement formulated by the Trinity before time began.

Those who are the party of the second part (the "whomsoever will" party) that do not choose to ***ENTER into*** the legal covenant of acquittal/pardon/payment in full of all debts (among many many other benefits), and who CHOOSE to refuse the pro bono services of the Advocate, will themselves bear the brunt of all judgments and payments due.

The success rate in court of those who CHOOSE to "RECEIVE" their acquittal/pardon/payment in full and RECEIVE the free services of their Advocate..........is 100%.


The success rate of those who "RECEIVE NOT" their acquittal/pardon/payment in full and "receiveth not" the free services of their Advocate..........is 0%.

Wake up and smell the coffee bub. The Bible is a legally binding document. And your eternal destiny hinges upon it.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Judging by deeds is no different than Judging one's sins. It's a distinction without a difference.
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Only in your mind @Cameron143 . I honestly believe that deep down you know. But your theology is more important.

Sin is finished. But our, " I can save myself by being 'good' and doing 'good' deeds will save me.".......is not finished.

Matt 7
22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’
 
Big Question.

Why was it to God's advantage to allow for the fall of man?

......
 
cv5 said:
As usual you fail to comprehend the depth and breath of the situation, stuck in a rut. Pretty typical for you actually.

The all-encompassing truth is as follows:
The basis of anyone's salvation is predicated upon a legal settlement agreement formulated by the Trinity before time began.

Those who are the party of the second part (the "whomsoever will" party) that do not choose to ***ENTER into*** the legal covenant of acquittal/pardon/payment in full of all debts (among many many other benefits), and who CHOOSE to refuse the pro bono services of the Advocate, will themselves bear the brunt of all judgments and payments due.

The success rate in court of those who CHOOSE to "RECEIVE" their acquittal/pardon/payment in full and RECEIVE the free services of their Advocate..........is 100%.


The success rate of those who "RECEIVE NOT" their acquittal/pardon/payment in full and "receiveth not" the free services of their Advocate..........is 0%.

Wake up and smell the coffee bub. The Bible is a legally binding document. And your eternal destiny hinges upon it.
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BTW......... the 0% crowd CHOOSE to "go it alone" and pay for their own sins.
God consequently honors their FREE WILL decision.......and they do.
 
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cv5 said:
As usual you fail to comprehend the depth and breath of the situation, stuck in a rut. Pretty typical for you actually.

The all-encompassing truth is as follows:
The basis of anyone's salvation is predicated upon a legal settlement agreement formulated by the Trinity before time began.

Those who are the party of the second part (the "whomsoever will" party) that do not choose to ***ENTER into*** the legal covenant of acquittal/pardon/payment in full of all debts (among many many other benefits), and who CHOOSE to refuse the pro bono services of the Advocate, will themselves bear the brunt of all judgments and payments due.

The success rate in court of those who CHOOSE to "RECEIVE" their acquittal/pardon/payment in full and RECEIVE the free services of their Advocate..........is 100%.


The success rate of those who "RECEIVE NOT" their acquittal/pardon/payment in full and "receiveth not" the free services of their Advocate..........is 0%.

Wake up and smell the coffee bub. The Bible is a legally binding document. And your eternal destiny hinges upon it.
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Where in scripture do you find the phrase... choose to receive?
 
Kroogz said:
None can know the Gospel, let alone the Bible, until they win the lottery....... According to the calvies.
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It's a bunch of hogwash. Been debunked on this thread 100 times over.
The don't have a leg to stand on and never did.
 
Cameron143 said:
Read the passage yourself. Jesus says the blasphemy of the Spirit is attributing His works to Satan rather than the Spirit.
I would like to agree with you but you keep getting things wrong.
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Blaspheme of the Holy Spirit (in effect) is saying that Satan is superior to the Holy Spirit.
For the Pharisees could not cast out demons.
Yet, the Pharisees were claiming to be the ones of God.

Now if they could not cast out demons?
And, claimed that Jesus was casting out demons by the power of a Beelzebub?
And, if they could not cast out demons?
Then, they were, in effect, saying, that God has less power than a demon!
That Satan has more power than God!

Now, that is blaspheme of the Holy Spirit, sir.
 
Kroogz said:
Only in your mind @Cameron143 . I honestly believe that deep down you know. But your theology is more important.

Sin is finished. But our, " I can save myself by being 'good' and doing 'good' deeds will save me.".......is not finished.

Matt 7
22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’
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How many people do you know who have been judged for thinking about stealing? People aren't judged until they actually steal. Why? Because thinking about stealing is a temptation, and being tempted isn't sinful, nor is it a crime. We can only be judged by our deeds because they are the evidence of our sin. It has nothing to do with my theology. That's what you tell yourself to resist truth. Others here mock or insult. That is their means of resisting truth.
 
Genez said:
Blaspheme of the Holy Spirit (in effect) is saying that Satan is superior to the Holy Spirit.
For the Pharisees could not cast out demons.
Yet, the Pharisees were claiming to be the ones of God.

Now if they could not cast out demons?
And, claimed that Jesus was casting out demons by the power of a Beelzebub?
And, if they could not cast out demons?
Then, they were, in effect, saying, that God has less power than a demon!
That Satan has more power than God!

Now, that is blaspheme of the Holy Spirit, sir.
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No. It's simply attributing Jesus' works to Satan and not the Spirit.
 
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