How does any of that relate to the people who would be known as the nation of Israel and being freed from Egypt have to do with God's purpose for my individual salvation?
Context is everything. Go back and see what the context of the discussion was.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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How does any of that relate to the people who would be known as the nation of Israel and being freed from Egypt have to do with God's purpose for my individual salvation?
Context is everything. Go back and see what the context of the discussion was.
David prayed for his child to live, but we shouldn't pray that ours do? I think we can do much better.
Pray small, live small.
God
1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
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My gift was free, just as was the gift of God. Simply by grace. You are set free.
Reformed Theology has plenty of security. All we have to do is compare our new life to scripture to see if God has fulfilled his unilateral, unconditional New Covenant promises. PLUS the Holy Spirit himself existentially bears witness with every believer's spirit that he's a child of God (Rom 8:16). Have you never personally experienced the Holy Presence within you? And have you experienced a radically changed life/ If not...you had better examine yourself to see if you're in the faith.
Yes it does because the context was why God chooses. You supplied a verse that dealt with whom God chose to create a nation from and led them out of bondage because of the promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It has nothing to do with the election of the Church nor does it have anything to do with individual salvation which is what you want to make Election all about. Election is never about choosing who to save, it is what to do with those who are saved. The forefathers were saved and God made them a p[romise, one He kept in the Exodus.
Foreknowledge precedes election. God sees you as saved before He decides to elect you for something. You and I got elected to be in Christ which is the Church. We could have been elected to be in the Garden or the Ark or Israel or the Millennium but we weren't. None of us chose to be where and when we are, that is purely God's prerogative for reasons known only to Him.
The unbelievers will be condemned after a book containing their works (not sins) is searched through by the Lord,
will found falling short of what God requires.
I also saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne,
and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life,
and the dead were judged according to their works by what was written in
the books." Revelation 20:12
In Christ .....The context was the Exodus and salvation of Israel, not individual salvation or the forming of the Church. God chose to free Israel from bondage because of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Get on board the right ship and stop applying verses to events with which they are not associated.
Yes, we do! Unlike you willfully ignorant FWers, we don't have to tell the world that "Christ died for you" in one breath, but then in the next "But you have to keep your end of the deal". Or that God is a potential Savior who only offers opportunities to become saved", etc.
David was not praying for that child's salvation.
What is it exactly you are asking about praying for the unbeliever?
I had been assuming it would be concerning their salvation.
If that's the case? You can pray that God get's someone a new car.
It does fit. In one, God chose a people to be His own. In the other, God chose a people to be His own. The first through natural birth. The second through spiritual birth.
I don't think I'll waste my time with your assessment of what's logical and what's not.
Their works are their sins. Jesus saves His people from their sins. I believe you are making a distinction without a difference.
Because He's not requiring payment for their sins. He is judging their evil from which their sins derive just as He will judge your evil at the judgement seat of Christ. Don't think you have a free pass into gaining all rewards because you are in Christ. How we handle the word, Christ is the Word, will be determined at our judgement.
Matthew 16:15
He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
And "Israel" today is the "Israel of God (the Church)!
Even the Exodus narrative itself reveals that a large mixed multitude left Egypt with the ancient Hebrews, signifying a foreshadowing of the fulfillment of the Abrahamic Covenant promise that God would make Abraham the [spiritual] father of many nations. God's deliverance of his chosen people was in the fullest sense a redemption of Abraham's descendants -- biological and spiritual alike. This is why it's so extremely important to interpret scripture through the lens of the New Covenant, otherwise you're interpretation will miss the mark.
It doesn't because the question was "why does God choose". All you did was show what He chooses based on a promise He made to the saved. Election comes after salvation.
David was praying for his son's physical life, and while God did not spare his son, God did reveal to David that his son was saved. Which is the greater? And knowing that salvation is the highest good for anyone, why would you not ask God to intervene? You would ask God to intervene for something that will perish, but not ask God to intervene for another's soul? I'll never understand that line of reasoning. Man's will is more sacrosanct than his soul?
Jesus came to save His people from their sins. I believe you are making a distinction without a difference.
That's a very sad commentary. Don't you know that Paul prayed for people's salvation? Plus Jesus himself did!
You're man-made, man-exalting, man-glorifying "theology" is a huge train wreck!