Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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We receive grace passively.
God works Himself in unobtrusively.

It's when we find ourselves doing things well. Things that we know we could not do by simply choosing to do them.
That we see the God's grace power is working in us. We do not feel overwhelmed by grace. It's gentle. It makes us to be "graceful."


But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect.
No, I worked harder than all of themyet not I, but the grace of God that was with me.


1 Cor 15:10

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Interesting that you highlight Paul's work but give no heed to what Paul said to QUALIFY his work which I bolded in red. This clearly reveals your man-oriented, man-centered mindset.
 
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(nephesh) is breath life.
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I do not know where you got that from. What was used in Genesis concerning the breathing into the nostrils was "neshamah."

Only four verses in the Bible use the exact phrase ‘breath of life’, but this phrase derives from three different Hebrew phrases: twice from ‘ruwach chay’, once from ‘neshamah chay’, and once from ‘neshamah ruwach chay’.

I would highly recommend discovering this teacher whom God highly blessed with knowledge, understanding and wisdom.
Here is a good pick. https://www.rbthieme.org/index.html#tabs-3

He was Hal Lindsay and Chuck Swindoll's pastor.
And, Billy Graham approached him to ask if he would privately mentor him.

God provided, though the world may appear to us to be as a desert.

grace and peace ................
 
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A few things: First, would that be the same "grace" that freed the vast majority of the world to choose to reject the gospel?

Secondly, why would God bestow unmerited divine favor (grace) upon those whom he knew in eternity would never believe?

Thirdly, how is it that God's gift of unmerited divine favor (grace), which always results in positive results in other applications (e.g. miracles) suddenly changes to yield mostly negative results in spiritual salvation, giving God a very poor track record? In scripture, the only time God's grace yields negative results is when God withholds or withdraws grace from people's souls, e.g. Joseph's brothers, Pharaoh, Judas' betrayal of Christ, the cold-blooded murder of Christ or whenever God gives people over to their depraved desires, etc.

Lastly, you have God's will totally contingent on the will of his creatures, which contradicts scripture. For your info, mankind is not running the universe or even this little green planet.

Since you will argue everything I say?

Go find it for yourself, since you are so naturally smarter than the rest of us.

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relying on "human strength" as opposed to being led by the Spirit ... the fruit of the Spirit is not exhibited in Post 7966 submitted by Rufus ... and I get your point about dogmatism ...
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Are you suggesting that dogma is sinful? Are there no definite, absolute tenets or body of doctrines for the Church to grasp and hold onto? What about dogmas like the Trinity, the Incarnation, virgin birth, the fall of mankind, etc.?
 
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It is God Who works in you to will and to act on behalf of His good purpose. Apart from Me you can do nothing. No word from God will ever fail. “It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” Those who heard this asked, “Who then can be saved?” But Jesus said, “What is impossible with man is possible with God.”
 
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John 14 v 17a, Romans 8 v 6-9 ~ “Inability” in Bible. The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth. The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. Praise be to God for calling me out of the world.
 
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You said you made your choices freely so .... if they are made from your volition????

Do you want to tell us all your "flesh" choices were made freely but your decision to believe Christ was what, coerced?
We make choices all the time based on our desires. My decision was not "coerced", but it was only made after I was made spiritually alive. While I was spiritually dead, I had no desire to believe in Christ.
 
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Man is born in transgression and sin (Psalm 51 verse 5, 58 verse 3), dead in transgressions (Ephesians 2 verse 5), his heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure (Jeremiah 17 verse 9), held captive by a love for sin (John 3 verse 19; John 8 verse 34), so that he will not seek God (Romans 3 verses 10-11), because he loves the darkness (John 3 verse 19), and does not understand the things of God (1 Corinthians 2 verse 14), nor can he change himself (Jeremiah 13 verse 23). He suppresses the truth of God in unrighteousness (Romans 1 verse 18) and continues to willfully live in sin because he is totally depraved; this sinful lifestyle seems right to men (Proverbs 14 verse 12); they reject the gospel of Christ as foolishness (1 Corinthians 1 verse 18), and their mind is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. (Romans 8 verse 7).
 
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She does not believe that personal spiritual revelation is necessary despite Jesus claiming the opposite.

And if you think about it the free willer must adhere to such error in order to have the person
who cannot receive or comprehend the spiritual things of God believe the very things he can
neither accept nor understand. Their vain self-exalting theology demands it.
"Cannot receive" unless the gatekeepers say so? That's the embedded signal that I am picking up.

Anybody else picking up on it?
 
Since you will argue everything I say?

Go find it for yourself, since you are so naturally smarter than the rest of us.

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You're not a very good apologist for FWT, are you? Why can't you answer my questions?
 
We make choices all the time based on our desires. My decision was not "coerced", but it was only made after I was made spiritually alive. While I was spiritually dead, I had no desire to believe in Christ.
Sell that line to Rahab if you can.

Rahab looked at the obvious facts and made the free will choice.....to live. Rather than perish.
 
Sell that line to Rahab if you can.

Rahab looked at the obvious facts and made the free will choice.....to live. Rather than perish.

Not coerced but made spiritually alive.

Picture this if you will...

Person walking down the street,
no interest in God whatsoever,
the will is bound to unbelief,
hates God,
Satan is in control,
thinks evil thoughts day in and day out
thinks the Gospel is foolish,

and then POOF right out of nowhere made spiritually alive!! :LOL:
 
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You presume I don't look at words, verses and context before I make statements.

There is no anger stated in Gen3:24 nor in garash itself nor is there anger stated in the Greek equivalent used in the LXX.

The dots here are conjecture.

So, when Jesus drove the money changers out of the temple, He was filled with joy, was He? Or when He drove out all the pagan nations from the Promised Land, He wasn't angry with them? Or how about when God drove/thrust/cast out Lucifer from heaven, that was His way of showing how pleased he was with the devil? Or when God drove out Cain from the land that was God's way of showing that child of the devil what a happy camper He was with him after he murdered Abel? Or when Pharaoh drove the ancient Hebrew slaves from his land that was the king's way of expressing his love for them? Or when the Israelites drove out the pagan nations from the Land, this was their way of expressing friendship and goodwill toward the occupants? Or when Jesus drove out demons from people, we're to believe those demons were really loving friends of the Lord? Or when Paul and his fellow evangelists were driven out of Thessalonica by Jewish enemies of the gospel, we're to believe they were just pretending to be enemies of the Cross of Christ, etc., etc.

"Conjecture" indeed! I suppose, next, you'll want cites or quotes to prove what I just wrote? :rolleyes:

Since the focus of Gen 3:24 is on "THE MAN", there is no reasonable or logical way to conclude that Adam was not the object of God's displeasure, most especially since Eve is not even mentioned in the text which makes perfectly good sense since God had already reconciled her to Himself.
 
I'm not a salesman. Nothing Rahab did negates what I've been saying.
Calvinists are selling "saved then believe".
The Word says "believe and be saved".

Who then do you expect us to believe?

The Calvinists are selling "get lucky at the Holy Spirit down-payment pre-birth lottery so that you can believe".
The Word says "believe and receive the Holy Spirit".

Who then do you expect us to believe?
 
Not coerced but made spiritually alive.

Picture this if you will...

Person walking down the street,
no interest in God whatsoever,
the will is bound to unbelief,
hates God,
Satan is in control,
thinks evil thoughts day in and day out
thinks the Gospel is foolish,

and then POOF right out of nowhere made spiritually alive!! :LOL:

So now you mock God's Resurrection Power? Is that what happened with Jesus raised Lazarus up: Dead one minute and then "POOF" alive the next? :rolleyes:
 
Not coerced but made spiritually alive.

Picture this if you will...

Person walking down the street,
no interest in God whatsoever,
the will is bound to unbelief,
hates God,
Satan is in control,
thinks evil thoughts day in and day out
thinks the Gospel is foolish,

and then POOF right out of nowhere made spiritually alive!! :LOL:
Rahab wisely RECEIVED the two witnesses. Her choice.

The Gibeonites wisely SOUGHT the covenant of life and peace. Their choice.

The Ninevites wisely RECEIVED the prophet. Their choice
 
Calvinists are selling "saved then believe".
The Word says "believe and be saved".

Who then do you expect us to believe?

The Calvinists are selling "get lucky at the Holy Spirit down-payment pre-birth lottery so that you can believe".
The Word says "believe and receive the Holy Spirit".

Who then do you expect us to believe?

More lies by you! Who here has said that? Regeneration is the process that leads to the New Birth (salvation!), for it is this birth -- this new creation that makes one aware that he has become a child of God.

And the Word also says, "He who lives and believes" (Jn 11:26).

Answer this question if you can: What is the essence -- the warp 'n' woof of Eternal Life?