Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[Jordon]

I call missing the point consistently, and always heading in a wrong direction = evil.
Which you do quite a lot .

somehow I just knew you miss the point again, as you always do.
Well have a nice day in your wonderful imagination.

Try not fry your brains today there's a good lad, do as your mommy told,

 

[Magenta]

The iniquities of a wicked man entrap him; the cords of his sin entangle him. He dies for lack of discipline, led astray by his own great folly. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, and slander. Those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same. Proverbs 5 v 22-23, Matthew 15 v 19, Job 4 v 8

 

[Magenta]

Context.

16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?”[h] 17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ.

18 But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did:

Israel heard but did not obey, so therefore we conclude, that faith (trust and obedience) comes by making a personal choice to trust the message.



Closed for Further Questions

“Whoever belongs to God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” “The knowledge of the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.” The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. John 8 v 47; Matthew 13 v 11; 2 Corinthians ch 4 v 4; Romans 8 v 9b

 

[HeIsHere]

“I drew them with gentle cords, with bands of love, and I was to them as those who take the yoke from their neck.
I stooped and fed them”

Irresistible grace?

He draws them, but they are unfaithful as Hosea gives these Words from God.
The drawing wasn’t “irresistible”,

As vs 5 follows: “He shall not return to the land of Egypt; But the Assyrian shall be his king, BECAUSE THEY refused to repent”
—Hosea 11:5

So then sometimes it is "irresistible" and sometimes it is not?
More contradictions.

 

[Magenta]

Deuteronomy 30 v 6~ The LORD your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love Him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live.

 

[Magenta]

So then sometimes it is "irresistible" and sometimes it is not?

Romans 8 verse 7a, Galatians 5 verse 17, John 1 verse 5, John 14 verse 17 ~ The mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. The flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. Darkness does not comprehend the Light. The world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him.

 

[Magenta]

The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. The world does not recognize Him. No one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him. The one who loves God is known by God. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The mind that is set on the flesh is hostile toward God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it. Whoever is not from God does not listen to us.

 

[Magenta]

Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom (2 Cor ch 3 v 17). If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ (Rom 8 v 9b). The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him (from John 14 v 17). Those not in Christ are not free (see Heb 2 v 15). Praise God if He has rescued you from the dominion of darkness! (see Col 1 v 13)

 

[Genez]

somehow I just knew you miss the point again, as you always do.
Well have a nice day in your wonderful imagination.

Try not fry your brains today there's a good lad, do as your mommy told,

I was always taught that adults should not spank someone else's snotty kid.

I still believe it's true.

You're just a snotty kid.
And, getting too much attention.

Everboy here knows you by now.....

So?

I will put you on Ignore, and hope your parents get home soon to deal with you.

Stay in school.

bye.

 

[Magenta]

The Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart. 1 Samuel 16 v 7 Perverted men see things through the lens of their perversions.

 

[Genez]

“I drew them with gentle cords, with bands of love, and I was to them as those who take the yoke from their neck.
I stooped and fed them”

Irresistible grace?

He draws them, but they are unfaithful as Hosea gives these Words from God.
The drawing wasn’t “irresistible”,

As vs 5 follows: “He shall not return to the land of Egypt; But the Assyrian shall be his king, BECAUSE THEY refused to repent”
—Hosea 11:5

So then sometimes it is "irresistible" and sometimes it is not?
More contradictions.

 

[Magenta]

Through no choice of his own, man is born into the human race and lives in his natural state as a child of wrath (Eph 2 v 3), not a child of God (John 3 v 3; Gal 3 v 26; 1 John 2 v 22-23; 1 John 4 v 3; 1 John 1 v 7). He lives his life driven by three main motivators: the lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride of life (1 John 2 v 15-17). He is hostile to/unable to submit to God (Rom 8 v 7), incapable of knowing or understanding the spiritual things of God (1 Cor 2 v 14; Matt 11 v 27), because he does not have the Spirit of God in him required to give Spiritual wisdom (1 Cor 1 v 18). Considering Godly Spiritual things to be foolishness, he rejects God and His Word, which, if left unremedied, will result in his ultimate destruction, having not attained to eternal life (Romans 1 v 18-32; 1 Cor 2 v 11, 14; James 1 v 23-24; 1 Thes 2 v 13-16; 1 Peter 2 v 9-17; Revelation 14 v 9-10; John 3 v 16).

 

[Jordon]

I was always taught that adults should not spank someone else's snotty kid.

I still believe it's true.

You're just a snotty kid.
And, getting too much attention.

Everboy here knows you by now.....

So?

I will put you on Ignore, and hope your parents get home soon to deal with you.

Stay in school.

bye.

get it right in future, the name is Jordon,

But once again your perceptions and pettiness shows a disgrace to kindness and Gods will,

I actually feel embarrassed talking to you.

Well enjoy your ignorant pit you live in.

Bye bye bully

 

[Genez]

Time to find a new thread......

 

[Magenta]

Colossians 2 v 13, John 5 v 21 When you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom He wishes.

 

[Rufus]

I told you why, you are not genuine in wanting the answers. Why should I waste time with you?

Actually, I am genuine. Paul David Tripp once said:

"When it comes to biblical truth, insightful people are not simply those with the right answers but with the right questions, which lead to the right answers."

It appears to me, however, that you do not want the right answers. You much prefer to believe lies! Take for example, your simple-minded, oft-repeated, robotic mantra that God treats all people equally all the time, which is a very obvious falsehood that I thoroughly debunked back in early August in my 6738 and 6739 from the twin perspectives of Divine and Natural Revelation (temporal reality as we all know it to be), respectively. Yet, all I got from you and your FW comrades were crickets for a rebuttal.

And why are you concerned about my motives? It seems to me that if you were a true lover of Truth and true lover of the Body of Christ, you and other FWers would have responded in the interest of defending truth so that the Body would be instructed and edified. Instead, you use me as your lame excuse. Who do you think you are fooling hiding behind such a lame excuse?

 

[Cameron143]

Context.

16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?”[h] 17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ.

18 But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did:

Israel heard but did not obey, so therefore we conclude, that faith (trust and obedience) comes by making a personal choice to trust the message.



Closed for Further Questions

Israel heard, but did not come to faith. According to Isaiah, when this occurs, it was not God's purpose to save...Isaiah 55:11. And that's exactly what Paul is saying in Romans 10. Israel's rejection was for the purpose of bringing Gentiles to God. You believe Romans 10:17 says that faith comes by hearing the word of God. It actually says that faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

 

[Magenta]

The devil seeks to

Actually, I am genuine. Paul David Tripp once said:

"When it comes to biblical truth, insightful people are not simply those with the right answers but with the right questions, which lead to the right answers."

It appears to me, however, that you do not want the right answers. You much prefer to believe lies! Take for example, your simple-minded, oft-repeated, robotic mantra that God treats all people equally all the time, which is a very obvious falsehood that I thoroughly debunked back in early August in my 6738 and 6739 from the twin perspectives of Divine and Natural Revelation (temporal reality as we all know it to be). Yet, all I got from you and your FW comrades were crickets for a rebuttal.

And why are you concerned about my motives? It seems to me that if you were a true lover of Truth and true lover of the Body of Christ, you and other FWers would have responded in the interest of defending truth so that the Body would be instructed and edified. Instead, you use me as your lame excuse. Who do you think you are fooling hiding behind such a lame excuse?

They hope to fool the naive into believing that an ancient anti-Biblical vain philosophical construct has validity when it does not.

Colossians 2 v 8, Romans 16 v 18, Romans 10 v 2, Proverbs 19 v 2a ~ See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. For I testify about them that they are zealous for God, but not on the basis of knowledge. Zeal is no good without knowledge. They teach as doctrine the precepts of men.

 

[Rufus]

Here is why....

"I appeal to you, brothers (& sisters), to watch out for those who cause divisions ​

and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them." Romans 16:17-18, ​

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Translate: Because we FWers, in spite of putting up our phony facade as intellectual, investigative, studious bible students, ain't all that swift when it comes down to brass tacks.

 

[Magenta]

Translate: Because we FWers, in spite of putting up our phony facade as intellectual, investigative,
studious bible students, ain't all that swift when it comes down to brass tacks.

He says we should avoid wankers like him. I agree. He says nothing edifying.