John 10 verses 27-28 My sheep hear My voice, I know them and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them out of My hand.
“Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
Nice one mate I'll go with that.If you are walking in the Spirit?....
And, have matured by learning and understanding a large amount of sound doctrine to think with?
You will be able to do His will that otherwise you might think it is a wrong thing to do according to your own understanding.
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,neither are your ways my ways,”declares the Lord.“As the heavens are higher than the earth,so are my ways higher than your waysand my thoughts than your thoughts. Isaiah 55:8-9
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Nice one mate I'll go with that.
Your sounding more and more like a true blue
I will knight you into my Calvin hood![]()
This chain is impossible under total depravity, because total depravity demands: no hearing, no learning, no responding, no drawing near, unless regeneration happens first.
But Scripture repeatedly makes the word itself the means of: awakening, persuading, convicting, drawing, saving.
Thus regeneration cannot come before faith, and total depravity collapses.
Not really...Matthew 13:11-17
Jesus says it is GIVEN to KNOW the mysteries of the kingdom to some and not others. He goes on to say that He spoke in parables so that some seeing will see not and hearing will not hear or understand. I thought Jesus wanted everyone to hear and understand and see and perceive. He sure is impugning the character of God.
Not really...
He allows the spiritual morons to be spiritual morons and thinking they are happy about it.
And in doing so?
Leaves them content, to be as they are, without them persecuting the ones who are truly maturing.
do you about the child that Got talked to in the wilderness by GodHere is a verse of the day for you....
When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me."1 Corinthians 13:11.......
Time for HeIsHere to swoop in and tell us how unfair God is?Matthew 13:11-17
Jesus says it is GIVEN to KNOW the mysteries of the kingdom to some and not others. He goes on to say that He spoke in parables so that some seeing will see not and hearing will not hear or understand. I thought Jesus wanted everyone to hear and understand and see and perceive. He sure is impugning the character of God.
And when your set apart it's a long old road from the world you once knew, you walk alone but you don't walk alone your with God, the world you once loved, takes time to separate from. The loneliness of the world leaving you is lonely, as his word disciplines you, with responsibility,![]()
From Matthew 4 verse 4 Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.
Paul also disciplined himself so that he never became a spiritual moranNot really...
He allows the spiritual morons to be spiritual morons and thinking they are happy about it.
And in doing so?
Leaves them content, to be as they are, without them persecuting the ones who are truly maturing.
Here's one for you...Nice one mate I'll go with that.
Your sounding more and more like a true blue
I will knight you into my Calvin hood![]()
your just so confused it's unrealRomans 10:17 refutes total inability
“Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
Calvinism says:
You must be regenerated before you can hear spiritually.
Paul says:
Hearing the word is what produces faith.
John 6:45 refutes total inability
“Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.”
Calvinism says:
Dead sinners cannot hear or learn until after regeneration.
Jesus says:
Hearing and learning come before coming to Him.
John 6:63 refutes total inability
“The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.”
Calvinism says:
Regeneration gives life so you can receive the word.
Jesus says:
His words give life.
The life comes through the word, not before the word.
Hebrews 7:19 refutes total inability
“By this better hope we draw near to God.”
Calvinism says:
Man cannot “draw near” until God regenerates him.
But Hebrews says we draw near because of the hope provided in Christ —
not because of pre-salvation regeneration.
Drawing is made possible by Christ’s provision, not irresistible grace.
Acts 11:14 refutes total inability
“…who will tell you words by which you will be saved.”
Calvinism says:
Regeneration must happen before hearing.
Acts says/teaches:
The words of God must be heard to be saved.
Summary: All these passages show man CAN respond when taught
The pattern is consistent:
God draws by His word: people hear, people learn, people believe, people come, people receive life, people are saved.
This chain is impossible under total depravity, because total depravity demands: no hearing, no learning, no responding, no drawing near, unless regeneration happens first.
But Scripture repeatedly makes the word itself the means of: awakening, persuading, convicting, drawing, saving.
Thus regeneration cannot come before faith, and total depravity collapses.
How about it @OLDBUTNEW
Do you see his mercy working upon them and in them in the old testament
Old testament
Does his mercy work here upon them and in them
Deuteronomy 7
New International Version
Driving Out the Nations
7 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. 3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4 for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you. 5 This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles[b] and burn their idols in the fire. 6 For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.
7 The Lord did not set his affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples. 8 But it was because the Lord loved you and kept the oath he swore to your ancestors that he brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery, from the power of Pharaoh king of Egypt. 9 Know therefore that the Lord your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments
If you can explain what he meant, go for it. How does everything exist before the foundation? Start there.
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Yes, HIS MERCY was on the Children of Israel.
he says to all the children of Israel who where actually the least of his chosenYes, HIS MERCY was on the Children of Israel.