Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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It may be something, his word shows his mercy being poured out on people in hundreds of places in the old testament.
I'll post one a day for the next 100 days for you, with your permission of course kind sir
Have a nice evening, sir. Your incoherent post makes no sense to me. So...we're done.
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OLDBUTNEW
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ding ding
We won he's chucked the towel in
Finally an act of grace.
The white flag of surrender
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Blue155
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The issue with Calvinism (whether the system means to or not) is it criticizes the character of God and the gospel of Christ.
I have no trouble not repeating myselfAlways nice to see there are some things we can agree on.
if you want to understand that isThe holy spirit will convict him
He who exalts himself will be humbled until he draws his last breath
Isaiah 30 v 18 The LORD longs to be gracious to you; therefore He rises to show you compassion, for the LORD is a just God. Blessed are all who wait for Him.
If you can explain what he meant, go for it. How does everything exist before the foundation? Start there.
Also, just in case you don't know, you don't have to type peoples names if you use the quote system as it will automatically notify them of your response. You only need to type their name if you want them to see a post where they are not quoted directly.
why don't you ask instead of asking someone else toIf you can explain what he meant, go for it. How does everything exist before the foundation? Start there.
Also, just in case you don't know, you don't have to type peoples names if you use the quote system as it will automatically notify them of your response. You only need to type their name if you want them to see a post where they are not quoted directly.
Is that why FWers call God unfair and say He is an unjust tyrannical monster kidnapping
and raping people against their free will? All while pretending to defend His character?
Quite disgusting, actually, how easily and frequently FWers blaspheme Him.
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Blue155
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When examined logically and consistently, Calvinism contradicts: God’s revealed character, God’s universal love, God’s justice, God’s sincerity, and the universal call of the gospel.
Everything that happens in our life time happens because God knew it would.
In many ways
One because he knew how we would be if we didn't accept his life .
2 because he can see our future, as in know what where going to do to tomorrow and even 10 years later.
So say in 10 years time you could buy a flower for a loved one
He already knows you will
As he also knows how many days you have been allotted to
When examined logically against the revealed written Holy Word of God, free will theology falls flat on its face.
Flesh cannot please God by choosing to believe what it opposes with its incurably wicked heart that hates God.
But FWers refuse to acknowledge what the Bible says on this and related
matters. They insist that the natural man can do what Scripture says he cannot.
They do not seem bothered in the least to ignore, contradict, and outright deny so much of what is written.
The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8 v 6-8 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 2 v 13-14
Without Hope and without God:
Man has a will, of course, but this will exists only within the confines of his spiritual deadness. No one has a free will to choose the only true God, for all are, by nature, dead in sins, and need God to make them alive. God does this by grace alone for the people He chose before the world began. Being without hope means being without God. Being without God means there is nothing one can do. The promise of salvation is not made to those who choose Him, but only to those whom He has chosen.
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It seems to me that Scripture tells us that natural man is without hope, unless he is brought near by the blood of Christ. That speaks volumes for God's Grace and makes man's freewill worth less than nothing for salvation purposes.
Eph 2:12-13
12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
Man has a will, of course, but this will exists only within the confines of his spiritual deadness. No one has a free will to choose the only true God, for all are, by nature, dead in sins, and need God to make them alive. God does this by grace alone for the people He chose before the world began. Being without hope means being without God. Being without God means there is nothing one can do. The promise of salvation is not made to those who choose Him, but only to those whom He has chosen.
** MDB **
It seems to me that Scripture tells us that natural man is without hope, unless he is brought near by the blood of Christ. That speaks volumes for God's Grace and makes man's freewill worth less than nothing for salvation purposes.
Eph 2:12-13
12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
how about here sir
Old testament
Does his mercy work here upon them and in them
Deuteronomy 7
New International Version
Driving Out the Nations
7 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. 3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4 for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you. 5 This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles[b] and burn their idols in the fire. 6 For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.
7 The Lord did not set his affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples. 8 But it was because the Lord loved you and kept the oath he swore to your ancestors that he brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery, from the power of Pharaoh king of Egypt. 9 Know therefore that the Lord your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments.