Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Cameron143 said:
Wow. The people who believe in freewill think others can take away their freewill. Pretty ironic.
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In order to be taking away, you’d first have to have it 😉

My post has nothing to do with free will. It has everything to do with how Calvinism causes one to either be an unbeliever or remain an unbeliever, which ironically, both Calvinism and unbelievers don’t believe in free will, which is something they both share in common lol.
 
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Kroogz said:
They most definitely do not encourage the lost.

And just take note...They do not say or type "The Lord Jesus Christ."......Because that name is salvation.

They say "God" and may slip in "Jesus" every once in a while.
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If an atheist who didn’t believe in free will, and was told by a Calvinist that God eternally decreed them not to have free will, and was told that they, as an atheist are not of the elect and cannot do a thing about it, then how would that make an atheist feel?
 
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Kroogz said:
Calvies do not give freewill humans the Gospel....................Show me ONE post from this entire thread that a calvie shared His Gospel.
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Were you ever told by your Calvinists friends that since you gave up Calvinism, that you were never saved?
 
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Blue155 said:
If an atheist who didn’t believe in free will, and was told by a Calvinist that God eternally decreed them not to have free will, and was told that they, as an atheist are not of the elect and cannot do a thing about it, then how would that make an atheist feel?
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Just imagine from this thread alone, how many unbelievers went to bed thinking.....Eat, drink and be merry. Smoke a bowl and BAM......Regenerated.

The elect and un-elect alike just as well live it up......No matter what either does, they will get saved or sent to the LoF.

Eat, drink and be merry.......The end is determined.
 
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Kroogz said:
Just imagine from this thread alone, how many unbelievers went to bed thinking.....Eat, drink and be merry. Smoke a bowl and BAM......Regenerated.

The elect and un-elect alike just as well live it up......No matter what either does, they will get saved or sent to the LoF.

Eat, drink and be merry.......The end is determined.
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No different than atheism. Live it up and then die.
 
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Blue155 said:
Were you ever told by your Calvinists friends that since you gave up Calvinism, that you were never saved?
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Yep. Totally "Kicked out." I was in the inner circle. It was an "exclusive" Club in our church. If they thought you were all in, they brought you into the real mens Bible study. I ate it up......Sad to think back on it now. I was a fool.

Yet, I don't understand the calvies? The problem is we understand it far too well.
 
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Blue155 said:
In order to be taking away, you’d first have to have it 😉

My post has nothing to do with free will. It has everything to do with how Calvinism causes one to either be an unbeliever or remain an unbeliever, which ironically, both Calvinism and unbelievers don’t believe in free will, which is something they both share in common lol.
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Who says unbelievers don't believe in freewill? I'd wager more unbelievers believe in freewill than not. Afterall, they believe they are the masters of their own fates and captains of their own souls.
 
Kroogz said:
Calvies do not give freewill humans the Gospel....................Show me ONE post from this entire thread that a calvie shared His Gospel.
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Show me one verse in the Bible that teaches freewill.
And this thread isn't about how to share the gospel. It's about whether freewill exists.
 
cv5 said:
If you choose to hear it, you would do well.
Scroll down to these three units.....
Start with "Stabilize fear".....and hear these three.

https://rbthieme.org/stream/special...confidence_in_crisis&ref=confidence_in_crisis

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Does he ever address the grammatical error in Vaticanus' reading of Romans 8:28?

At this point in my life, I am not interested in listening to anti-TR or anti-KJV material unless you simply want to summarize what he states here.

In this PDF, I have catalogued seventeen textual differences that I believe are significant or noteworthy. This is by no means an exhaustive list, as I am confident that additional examples can be found in my 77 Changed Doctrines in Modern Bibles list. In addition to these, my 100 Reasons for the KJV and the Textus Receptus provide further non-doctrinal reasons in support of the same position.

You can view the PDF here:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3m849fzt1coq38etobnd2/KJV-vs-Modern-Bibles-Changed-Doctrines.pdf?rlkey=3fjj7b207c4kclgjdybwmv1sp&st=zxiy0c1z&dl=0

Note: If you don’t want to view it, just download it and have ChatGPT analyze it for you.


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Blue155 said:
No different than atheism. Live it up and then die.
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@Rufus, @rogerg, @Magenta are your text book calvies. They are text book examples of Calvinism....Right down to the lingo.

The others here are working for the exclusive calvie club membership.......Never admit it of course.

But there is one here that is a stealth calvie. Calvinist to the core, but is very adept at hiding it. NEVER, NEVER, NO NOT EVER admit it of course.....He is easy to spot if one has a bit of doctrine though.
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Define freewill and maybe I can find one
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Oxford dictionary freedom of choice

Bible untrusted nature from the flesh

Choice and will different in the bible

Bible the will of man lives in the flesh, doesn't state the choice and will are one in harmony with each other just states the will of man lives in the flesh
 
Cameron143 said:
Who says unbelievers don't believe in freewill? I'd wager more unbelievers believe in freewill than not.
After all, they believe they are the masters of their own fates and captains of their own souls.
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If they even believe in souls... one unbeliever I spoke with over a period of time called "spiritual" a soggy cabbage of a word LOL.
 
Cameron143 said:
And this thread isn't about how to share the gospel. It's about whether freewill exists.
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Freewill.......Witnesses His Gospel.

Freewill.....Accepts His Gospel.

Try again.

The Lord Jesus Christ died for all sin. And each and every individual has equal privilege and equal opportunity to ACCEPT His FREE offer.

Live it, love it......TEACH it. He came to seek the lost.
 
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Kroogz said:
Freewill.......Witnesses His Gospel.

Freewill.....Accepts His Gospel.

Try again.

The Lord Jesus Christ died for all sin. And each and every individual has equal privilege and equal opportunity to ACCEPT His FREE offer.

Live it, love it......TEACH it. He came to seek the lost.
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how does the flesh accept the gospel tho
 
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