Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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You're not making sense.

We are all born with a free will: that's the way God made us.

Not born with free will, created with free will but the moment the Lord imputes our soul to our bodies, our will comes under the constriction of the sin nature and is enslaved. This is why, by means of grace, God must suppress the "flesh" when His truth is presented otherwise we all will automatically reject Him for the "flesh" is anti-God.

ps. I put flesh in quotes so it is not confused with flesh in the sense of our physical body but is understood as the leaning of the other law.
 
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Not born with free will, created with free will but the moment the Lord imputes our soul to our bodies, our will comes under the constriction of the sin nature and is enslaved. This is why, by means of grace, God must suppress the "flesh" when His truth is presented otherwise we all will automatically reject Him for the "flesh" is anti-God.

ps. I put flesh in quotes so it is not confused with flesh in the sense of our physical body but is understood as the leaning of the other law.

@sawdust: OK; good point, sister.
 
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I don't know how you came to that conclusion!

Just out of interest: How old are you?
your still under your own free will. I can be as old as you want me too.

You asked asked loads of question that stated you know nothing

Now your telling me you do know
 
your still under your own free will. I can be as old as you want me too.

You asked asked loads of question that stated you know nothing

Now your telling me you do know

Once again: Run along, sonny.
 
You act like it's different from anything I've said all along. I'm not one who believes that freewill exists.

Can't say that I have ever seen you come out and say directly that free will does not exist at all.

So I guess when Adam sinned it really was a case of "the devil made me do it" :p
 
Can't say that I have ever seen you come out and say directly that free will does not exist at all.

So I guess when Adam sinned it really was a case of "the devil made me do it" :p
Humorous, but no. Being without unabated freewill doesn't preclude the ability to make choices.
 
Oh, dear!
well all this is entertaining but your still in rebellion,

You've not answered clear instruction from his word,.now it may be because you've got the hump

But Do you recognise that' people under there own will do not answer to his word
 
well all this is entertaining but your still in rebellion,

You've not answered clear instruction from his word,.now it may be because you've got the hump

But Do you recognise that' people under there own will do not answer to his word

You know: My putting you on Ignore is sounding more and more like a very good idea!
 
Did Adam have free will? If Adam had free will, yet we do not have free will until we are ā€œchosenā€ (all while being considered chosen from the foundation of the world, via Calvinism) then someone of the elect had free will but at the same time did not. That means the elect were only capable of choosing evil until they were ā€œregeneratedā€ all while being one of ā€œthe electā€. And if they were the elect according to Calvinism, then why the need for being born totally depraved or regenerated? Makes no sense.