Born into corruption

[calmdavid]

I didn't know Jesus was a communist.

Jesus was not a communist, as communism as a political ideology did not exist 2000 years ago. However, communism as a political philosophy draws some inspiration from Christian teachings, particularly those emphasizing shared wealth, care for the poor, and opposition to greed and exploitation.

 

[Jimbone]

Jesus was not a communist, as communism as a political ideology did not exist 2000 years ago. However, communism as a political philosophy draws some inspiration from Christian teachings, particularly those emphasizing shared wealth, care for the poor, and opposition to greed and exploitation.

Yeah, but the whole "compelled by the state to do so" is what completely separates the two and makes communism more Satanic that Christian, and Jesus in no way what so ever a "communist". The only way the two can even be said to be similar is on the surface level without digging in or thinking about it at all. The two beliefs are antithetical to each other.

 

[calmdavid]

Communism strives to mimic the Christian lifestyle without Christ, it can't work.

Christianity is rooted in faith in God and the hope of spiritual salvation, while communism is a materialist ideology focused on class struggle and the abolition of private property. While Christianity provides a moral foundation that can support communal living, secular or socialist societies can also function based on ethical principles that promote equality and justice.

One can integrate the materialist and secular aspects of communism with the Christian moral and spiritual framework while also maintaining their distinctions. Rather than negating each other, they can complement and reinforce one another.

 

[Cameron143]

Jesus was not a communist, as communism as a political ideology did not exist 2000 years ago. However, communism as a political philosophy draws some inspiration from Christian teachings, particularly those emphasizing shared wealth, care for the poor, and opposition to greed and exploitation.

Have you been to a Communist country?

 

[calmdavid]

Have you been to a Communist country?

No. Have you?

 

[Cameron143]

No. Have you?

No. But I suspect you would be very disillusioned with Communism if you actually lived under it. And from your responses, I knew you had not. Sanctions from other nations isn't the cause of poverty in Communist nations; greed is. While the platitudes of Communism seem well intentioned, in reality one always finds a relatively small group of people controlling the resources and wealth of the nation and force is used to maintain it.

Ask yourself this question: do you have a better chance to share in a nation's wealth and resources in a nation with a free market economy or a planned economy?

 

[calmdavid]

Communism seem well intentioned, in reality one always finds a relatively small group of people controlling the resources and wealth of the nation and force is used to maintain it.

That's ironic because you just described capitalism.

If you want to have an honest conversation about socialism/communism I'm here for you. But I don't wish to engage in a "pissing contest."

Bless you comrade.

 

[Cameron143]

That's ironic because you just described capitalism.

If you want to have an honest conversation about socialism/communism I'm here for you. But I don't wish to engage in a "pissing contest."

Bless you comrade.

My apologies. I thought we were having a discussion. And to have an honest conversation, truth has to be at the center of that. And you are operating under false assumptions. But easy enough to correct.

For instance, how many millionaires are there in China? How many in the United States?

This will tell you what percentage of people are sharing in the wealth. Please let me know what you find.

 

[Jimbone]

No. But I suspect you would be very disillusioned with Communism if you actually lived under it. And from your responses, I knew you had not. Sanctions from other nations isn't the cause of poverty in Communist nations; greed is. While the platitudes of Communism seem well intentioned, in reality one always finds a relatively small group of people controlling the resources and wealth of the nation and force is used to maintain it.

Ask yourself this question: do you have a better chance to share in a nation's wealth and resources in a nation with a free market economy or a planned economy?

Now what evidence do we have in history to answer this? Oh Yea, ALL of modern history. The last 8 years have shown us a perfect contrast of these ideologies and which one is better, or even works at all. Everything the Democrats have been pushing for is more like what Communism is. Look at California as a perfect example of what moving towards communism looks like. The closer you get to it the worst it gets and the more people that die. To be honest all the fentanyl deaths from fentanyl that came from Mexico since the Democrats open the boarder can be laid down right at their feet, it's their fault period. All the children that came here strait into sex slavery are all the Democrat leaders fault. The ideology is bad so the result is death and wickedness. When we do bad things it results in bad, and we've all seen who brings more bad. More war, less freedom, harder times, higher prices, more death and less justice, which of these two systems breeds more of this? The Democrat/Marxist/Communist/leftist/Hollywood/Satanic religion does hands down. You have to be blind and deny reality to object to this blatant truth. Jesus was not Communist nor Democrat, nor Leftist thinking in any way at all. Everything about this ideology is deception and self centered.

 

[Intersection]

Now what evidence do we have in history to answer this? Oh Yea, ALL of modern history. The last 8 years have shown us a perfect contrast of these ideologies and which one is better, or even works at all. Everything the Democrats have been pushing for is more like what Communism is. Look at California as a perfect example of what moving towards communism looks like. The closer you get to it the worst it gets and the more people that die. To be honest all the fentanyl deaths from fentanyl that came from Mexico since the Democrats open the boarder can be laid down right at their feet, it's their fault period. All the children that came here strait into sex slavery are all the Democrat leaders fault. The ideology is bad so the result is death and wickedness. When we do bad things it results in bad, and we've all seen who brings more bad. More war, less freedom, harder times, higher prices, more death and less justice, which of these two systems breeds more of this? The Democrat/Marxist/Communist/leftist/Hollywood/Satanic religion does hands down. You have to be blind and deny reality to object to this blatant truth. Jesus was not Communist nor Democrat, nor Leftist thinking in any way at all. Everything about this ideology is deception and self centered.

King was a rising figure in the Republican Party before the investigation.

 

[shittim]

Christianity is rooted in faith in God and the hope of spiritual salvation, while communism is a materialist ideology focused on class struggle and the abolition of private property. While Christianity provides a moral foundation that can support communal living, secular or socialist societies can also function based on ethical principles that promote equality and justice.

One can integrate the materialist and secular aspects of communism with the Christian moral and spiritual framework while also maintaining their distinctions. Rather than negating each other, they can complement and reinforce one another.

Faith in God and hope of salvation is only the beginning for Christianity, and it is how we have failed to walk out His plan. Growing daily into the image of the Son and doing the work of healing, cleansing, raising, preaching have been ignored.
the early church sold their excess properties, meeting in homes calling Holy Spirit to come minister.
best wishes

 

[calmdavid]

My apologies. I thought we were having a discussion. And to have an honest conversation, truth has to be at the center of that. And you are operating under false assumptions. But easy enough to correct.

For instance, how many millionaires are there in China? How many in the United States?

This will tell you what percentage of people are sharing in the wealth. Please let me know what you find.

As I told you before. I'm not interested in this kind of aggressive and dishonest dialogue.
Your question is not from a place of genuine curiosity or a willingness to learn another perspective. It's also irrelevant.

 

[calmdavid]

Faith in God and hope of salvation is only the beginning for Christianity, and it is how we have failed to walk out His plan. Growing daily into the image of the Son and doing the work of healing, cleansing, raising, preaching have been ignored.
the early church sold their excess properties, meeting in homes calling Holy Spirit to come minister.
best wishes

Exactly. The current Western liberal democracies go against the teachings of Jesus, but socialism does not. Christianity and socialism are more compatible.

 

[Cameron143]

As I told you before. I'm not interested in this kind of aggressive and dishonest dialogue.
Your question is not from a place of genuine curiosity or a willingness to learn another perspective. It's also irrelevant.

My intention is neither, but to show in tangible ways that Communism is a much poorer way to go than a free market approach. Had you done the exercise, you have found that those participating in free market economies share more in the wealth and resources of a nation.

If you don't care to engage in a discussion of history, truth, and reality, you are free to disengage. But this is a public forum. I would rather address the truth with you, but in free countries we recognize your rights and freedoms.

 

[ServantofMostHigh]

I didn't know Jesus was a communist.

nah He cant stand politics

 

[calmdavid]

we are born into a system that moulds us from birth, we come into the world so full of Light and Love and hope and Belief and slowly all the systems we live in smash that positivity out of us and we get taught hatred and separation, it's heartbreaking and this modern age is so filthy but we are so eager too squabble and point the finger at each other that we miss the biggest fact ....hearts all over the world have been turned to stone and we have not much Love left as currency, Godly Standards are taught as oppression and callouses and deviancy is promoted as freedom.
woman are told men opress you
blacks are told whites inflict slavery on you
whites are told your all rascists
older people are told your irrelevant
younger woman are blackmailed to be beautiful
we are all told be your own god
politicians come each cycle promising change and once they are in the world just seems to get worst.
I tell you this with no fear if we dont stop focusing on each other's speck of dust we will miss the plank and the ones who put it there.
Human rule is ending ..get on board with it.

 

[Dude653]

Jesus was not a communist, as communism as a political ideology did not exist 2000 years ago. However, communism as a political philosophy draws some inspiration from Christian teachings, particularly those emphasizing shared wealth, care for the poor, and opposition to greed and exploitation.

That's socialism, not communism
And we already have programs in place to help poor people until the great orange one cuts them all out

 

[ZNP]

It’s NOW LAW: Los Angeles to END Property Rights

Interesting how a crisis is used to justify eliminating rights.

 

[Dude653]

It’s NOW LAW: Los Angeles to END Property Rights

Interesting how a crisis is used to justify eliminating rights.

I just googled it and I can't find anything about people being fined for renting their own home.
Having them report how much they are charging is probably to prevent price gouging

 

[ZNP]

I just googled it and I can't find anything about people being fined for renting their own home.
Having them report how much they are charging is probably to prevent price gouging

Of course it is to prevent price gouging. That is my point, in a crisis basic human rights go right out the door. The bottom line is that there are not enough homes for people to live in. A law like this doesn't cause more people to rent, it causes fewer and so the shortage will be even more extreme.

Some people have two homes, they may not normally rent out one but because this is a crisis they would. However, now with this law some are discouraged from doing that. Other people have a room they could rent, they don't want to but this is a crisis. But with this law they decide not to.

Regardless of how you cut it, this law will cause fewer places to rent, not more. It will make the crisis worse, not better.