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Your comment about the bible being full of errors that cause people to acquire false beliefs is nonsense. If that statement were so God would be unable to judge people fairly. And God is a just God!
How can someone be judged for rejecting God's word if what we have at our disposal is corrupted?
"He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." John 12:48-50
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
This is the culmination of the cessationists mind and motives
This post is a dire warning to anyone on this path.
This is garbage. What a pit the cessationist digs out.
The "likes" say volumes.
What an embarrassment before heaven.
Pathetic little humanoids straightening out every little flaw with a baseball bat in a china shop.
Now the bible is not written to the church and the cessationists celebrate it.
Woah.
I would say trustworthy verification of ANY miracles is sketchy at best.his methods were not conventional there is historical documentation God raised the dead using him. and healings too.
I do agree with some of your views but the last part is beyond what is expected. Just make your point and leave it at that.The bible is preserved for our benefit. It contains historical accounts of what has taken place and prophetic visions of what is going to take place, which is history in advance. There is no scripture in anyway written to you or me specifically.
Are you so important that the bible has scriptures addressed to you? I would love to see them. Imbecile.
Yes we all know Jesus lost all his power when you say he did.
What a worthy pursuit
Now, this initial speaking in tongues is NOT the gift of tongues a stated in 1Corinthians 12, it is the SOUND that Jesus spoke of in his conversation with Nicodemus...
[8] The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
I do agree with some of your views but the last part is beyond what is expected. Just make your point and leave it at that.
huh
another one with a mind like cement
all mixed up and set![]()
Depends on who is writing the history. History is littered with deceivers posing as messengers of God. Time will soon be here when the last great one will move mankind rapidly to the consummation of the world.his methods were not conventional there is historical documentation God raised the dead using him. and healings too.
Petercito, with regards to "languages" in 1 Cor 14:13 this was indeed languages and these languages present in the congregation required "translation" as the word should be understood.
Paul's description of Spiritual gifts was addressed to the Corinthians. The Corinth church was comprised primarily of Gentiles. The gifts were endowed capabilities for service to the NT church. And Jews and Gentiles alike were edified through the operation of the gifts. Interesting.
The bible is preserved for our benefit. It contains historical accounts of what has taken place and prophetic visions of what is going to take place, which is history in advance. There is no scripture in anyway written to you or me specifically.
Are you so important that the bible has scriptures addressed to you? I would love to see them. Imbecile.
I did answer you. I said those who asked Peter what they MUST do (what their responsibility entailed) upon realizing that Jesus was the messiah were given their answer in Acts 2:38. Those who follow Peter's instructions in there entirety are saved. We see this in the experience of Cornelius and others. God sent an angel who told Cornelius to send for Peter who would tell him what he MUST DO in order to be saved. (Acts 10) The same experience is recorded in Acts 8 concerning Samaritans. Peter and John go to the Samaritans that have been obedient to the command to be water baptized and lay hands upon them that they to receive the Holy Ghost. Afterward, Paul informs the disciples of Ephesus that even though they have submitted to John the Baptist's water baptism they must be water baptized in the name of Jesus. Paul then laid hands upon them and they received the Holy Ghost.again you refuse to answer yes or no to those who were filled with the Holy Spirit before water baptism was saved.
This statement by Peter :
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
was the order of methodology or even chronological. you pass up verse 21 of Acts 2 and build teaching around verse 38. Before Peter said verse 38 he said this in verse 21 :
"21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. "
call on HIM in repentance.
What i meant is that there's no need for back n forth friction, some here are very emotional.But previous posts are acceptable like the one I replied to?
Or this one?
another one with a mind like cement
all mixed up and set?
In any case, it is not offensive to me what knuckle heads like that say. It's quite funny. The only thing funnier is their lack of comprehension of the bible, logic and common sense. ''smiley face''
Yes, we do use the literal name of Jesus. The name you refer to in Revelation is a new name that Jesus will acquire upon His second coming.do we?
His eyes as a flame of fire, and on His head many crowns: and He had a name written, that no man knew but Himself. (Revelation 19:12)
What i meant is that there's no need for back n forth friction, some here are very emotional.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[39] For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
-Thank you.
What I meant and did not accurately state in my original comment was that core salvation issues, etc. would have to be kept intact. Otherwise how is one to be judged if they have not been provided with proper information.The
Well I listed at least 6 errors and that is just the tip of the iceberg. All you need to do is go online and check out what I said against the original text and it is perfectly visible for all to see that I am not lying.
Just to make sure you have not misunderstood what I have said and what I am saying. The original text is correct as far as I know, but the English translation is full of many many errors. Hundreds most likely. I have come across so many I have lost count, and I have not recorded every single one I have encountered, so I don't have an exact number. I just know it's a lot.
There are also differences between the original Hebrew Text and the Septuagint. When or where those differences crept into the text, who knows? But in most cases Jesus and the Apostles quoted from the Septuagint instead of the original Hebrew, because by the time of Christ the Greek Septuagint had become more popular than the Hebrew bible. So for that reason I would assume the Septuagint in atleast those verses are more reliable.
I will give another example below which is Hebrews 11v27. If you follow the link and look across to the left hand side of the page you can see a parallel of around 28 different translations of the same verse and see the differences in each version.
If you read the NIV version and use that as your understanding of the scriptures in this instance it would be misleading, and you would arrive at the wrong conclusion.
https://biblehub.com/hebrews/11-27.htm
What I meant and did not accurately state in my original comment was that core salvation issues, etc. would have to be kept intact. Otherwise how is one to be judged if they have not been provided with proper information.
I have done research concerning whether the salvation components in the Book of Acts and the epistles were modified in various bible translations and to date am unaware of any changes. Of course the footnotes, etc. in study bibles will always reflect publishers bias toward their preferred denominational belief system.
The KJV is the earliest bible published in English and I believe it is the closest translation to the original texts. The many other translations came about afterward and in my opinion there is ample evidence that they do change meaning of passages of scripture. Not good.