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Well I listed at least 6 errors and that is just the tip of the iceberg. All you need to do is go online and check out what I said against the original text and it is perfectly visible for all to see that I am not lying.
Just to make sure you have not misunderstood what I have said and what I am saying. The original text is correct as far as I know, but the English translation is full of many many errors. Hundreds most likely. I have come across so many I have lost count, and I have not recorded every single one I have encountered, so I don't have an exact number. I just know it's a lot.
There are also differences between the original Hebrew Text and the Septuagint. When or where those differences crept into the text, who knows? But in most cases Jesus and the Apostles quoted from the Septuagint instead of the original Hebrew, because by the time of Christ the Greek Septuagint had become more popular than the Hebrew bible. So for that reason I would assume the Septuagint in atleast those verses are more reliable.
I will give another example below which is Hebrews 11v27. If you follow the link and look across to the left hand side of the page you can see a parallel of around 28 different translations of the same verse and see the differences in each version.
If you read the NIV version and use that as your understanding of the scriptures in this instance it would be misleading, and you would arrive at the wrong conclusion.
https://biblehub.com/hebrews/11-27.htm
Well I listed at least 6 errors and that is just the tip of the iceberg. All you need to do is go online and check out what I said against the original text and it is perfectly visible for all to see that I am not lying.
Just to make sure you have not misunderstood what I have said and what I am saying. The original text is correct as far as I know, but the English translation is full of many many errors. Hundreds most likely. I have come across so many I have lost count, and I have not recorded every single one I have encountered, so I don't have an exact number. I just know it's a lot.
There are also differences between the original Hebrew Text and the Septuagint. When or where those differences crept into the text, who knows? But in most cases Jesus and the Apostles quoted from the Septuagint instead of the original Hebrew, because by the time of Christ the Greek Septuagint had become more popular than the Hebrew bible. So for that reason I would assume the Septuagint in atleast those verses are more reliable.
I will give another example below which is Hebrews 11v27. If you follow the link and look across to the left hand side of the page you can see a parallel of around 28 different translations of the same verse and see the differences in each version.
If you read the NIV version and use that as your understanding of the scriptures in this instance it would be misleading, and you would arrive at the wrong conclusion.
https://biblehub.com/hebrews/11-27.htm
All these signs shall follow them.......Did Jesus say that to you? Were you an eye witness to all that He did and to His resurrection? It was to ''His Apostles'', they were the ones given the authority to do those things as a sign that they were eye witnesses to Jesus ministry and His resurrection. No one else could then claim to be one of the Apostles of Jesus if they did not have that authority and power given to them by Jesus.
No one outside of the apostles could lay their hands on a person and impart the gifts except for the Apostles of Jesus.
Here is another English translation error that gives cover to false beliefs.
Acts 8v18 ''When Simon saw [past tense] that the Spirit was [''WAS'' is not in the original text] it is literally ''IS BEING GIVEN'' present tense continuous verb.
given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”
Someone here said to me in a previous post they are a Berean and study the bible. Well my guess if that is true you are smart enough to figure out how that changes the context of that verse a lot and what it's implications are in being able to receive any supernatural gifts now.
No one outside of the apostles could lay their hands on a person and impart the gifts except for the Apostles of Jesus.
Here is another English translation error that gives cover to false beliefs.
Acts 8v18 ''When Simon saw [past tense] that the Spirit was [''WAS'' is not in the original text] it is literally ''IS BEING GIVEN'' present tense continuous verb.
given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”
Someone here said to me in a previous post they are a Berean and study the bible. Well my guess if that is true you are smart enough to figure out how that changes the context of that verse a lot and what it's implications are in being able to receive any supernatural gifts now.
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The bible is preserved for our benefit. It contains historical accounts of what has taken place and prophetic visions of what is going to take place, which is history in advance. There is no scripture in anyway written to you or me specifically.
Are you so important that the bible has scriptures addressed to you? I would love to see them. Imbecile.
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I would say trustworthy verification of ANY miracles is sketchy at best.
But let's say for instance that Wigglesworth punching a cancer victim in the stomach or beating a dead person back to life, actually DID happen. We are told that our enemy can perform lying wonders and signs designed to deceive.
We are also told to test the spirits because not all are from God.
So how do we to discern the frauds, the lying wonders and the true, Blessed real thing from the Lord? Certainly not merely by the results or an experience.
We do it by hearing God through His Word. There is not a SINGLE recorded incident ANYWHERE in Scripture that I am aware of where violence is used to heal a person. Violence is used by the ENEMY. Such as in the case of the boy who would throw himself into the fire, or the guy in the graveyard that would beat and terrorize himself and others.
If you can show me a case where violence is used I will rethink my position.
But let's say for instance that Wigglesworth punching a cancer victim in the stomach or beating a dead person back to life, actually DID happen. We are told that our enemy can perform lying wonders and signs designed to deceive.
We are also told to test the spirits because not all are from God.
So how do we to discern the frauds, the lying wonders and the true, Blessed real thing from the Lord? Certainly not merely by the results or an experience.
We do it by hearing God through His Word. There is not a SINGLE recorded incident ANYWHERE in Scripture that I am aware of where violence is used to heal a person. Violence is used by the ENEMY. Such as in the case of the boy who would throw himself into the fire, or the guy in the graveyard that would beat and terrorize himself and others.
If you can show me a case where violence is used I will rethink my position.
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Did I say that?
What does Jesus say about that?
John 14v10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
Jesus was given the authority by His Father. He has no power in and of Himself. He, Jesus is a man.
He is The Son Of God, yes. But:
Phil 2v7 ''but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of man''.
What does Jesus say about that?
John 14v10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
Jesus was given the authority by His Father. He has no power in and of Himself. He, Jesus is a man.
He is The Son Of God, yes. But:
Phil 2v7 ''but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of man''.
But previous posts are acceptable like the one I replied to?
Or this one?
another one with a mind like cement
all mixed up and set?
In any case, it is not offensive to me what knuckle heads like that say. It's quite funny. The only thing funnier is their lack of comprehension of the bible, logic and common sense. ''smiley face''
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Look the problem is you keep repeating scriptures about the church of that time. But missing the point of the origins of what was going on.
I agree and understand what is written there.
Where do we first see tongues being introduced into the bible? It is not in the book of Acts like almost everyone seems to think but in Isaiah 28v11,12 as Paul quotes in 1 Corinthians 14v21
1 Corinthians 14v20Brothers and sisters, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults. 21In the Law it is written:
“With other tongues
and through the lips of foreigners
I will speak to this people,
but even then they will not listen to me,
says the Lord.”
22Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is not for unbelievers but for believers.
Go back and read the entire chapter in Isaiah 28 and get an understanding of what is being said. God is rebuking the leaders. That is not a good thing. Do you want to be rebuked?
Who did Jesus always rebuke and always call a wicked and perverse generation? The leadership of Israel, the pharisees and teachers of the law.
That is who the tongues, LANGUAGES are addressing. The unbelievers are the unbelieving nation of Israel, who crucified The Lord Of Glory.
The lips of foreigners are the gentiles or more correctly the ethnic groups.
This in no way applies to anyone of today.
I agree and understand what is written there.
Where do we first see tongues being introduced into the bible? It is not in the book of Acts like almost everyone seems to think but in Isaiah 28v11,12 as Paul quotes in 1 Corinthians 14v21
1 Corinthians 14v20Brothers and sisters, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults. 21In the Law it is written:
“With other tongues
and through the lips of foreigners
I will speak to this people,
but even then they will not listen to me,
says the Lord.”
22Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is not for unbelievers but for believers.
Go back and read the entire chapter in Isaiah 28 and get an understanding of what is being said. God is rebuking the leaders. That is not a good thing. Do you want to be rebuked?
Who did Jesus always rebuke and always call a wicked and perverse generation? The leadership of Israel, the pharisees and teachers of the law.
That is who the tongues, LANGUAGES are addressing. The unbelievers are the unbelieving nation of Israel, who crucified The Lord Of Glory.
The lips of foreigners are the gentiles or more correctly the ethnic groups.
This in no way applies to anyone of today.
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Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[39] For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
-Thank you.
[39] For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
-Thank you.
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I did answer you. I said those who asked Peter what they MUST do (what their responsibility entailed) upon realizing that Jesus was the messiah were given their answer in Acts 2:38. Those who follow Peter's instructions in there entirety are saved. We see this in the experience of Cornelius and others. God sent an angel who told Cornelius to send for Peter who would tell him what he MUST DO in order to be saved. (Acts 10) The same experience is recorded in Acts 8 concerning Samaritans. Peter and John go to the Samaritans that have been obedient to the command to be water baptized and lay hands upon them that they to receive the Holy Ghost. Afterward, Paul informs the disciples of Ephesus that even though they have submitted to John the Baptist's water baptism they must be water baptized in the name of Jesus. Paul then laid hands upon them and they received the Holy Ghost.
As far as calling upon the name of the Lord, one must consider when the name of the Lord is called upon. Peter's instructions connect the use of the name of Jesus to water baptism.
As far as calling upon the name of the Lord, one must consider when the name of the Lord is called upon. Peter's instructions connect the use of the name of Jesus to water baptism.
What I meant and did not accurately state in my original comment was that core salvation issues, etc. would have to be kept intact. Otherwise how is one to be judged if they have not been provided with proper information.
I have done research concerning whether the salvation components in the Book of Acts and the epistles were modified in various bible translations and to date am unaware of any changes. Of course the footnotes, etc. in study bibles will always reflect publishers bias toward their preferred denominational belief system.
The KJV is the earliest bible published in English and I believe it is the closest translation to the original texts. The many other translations came about afterward and in my opinion there is ample evidence that they do change meaning of passages of scripture. Not good.
I have done research concerning whether the salvation components in the Book of Acts and the epistles were modified in various bible translations and to date am unaware of any changes. Of course the footnotes, etc. in study bibles will always reflect publishers bias toward their preferred denominational belief system.
The KJV is the earliest bible published in English and I believe it is the closest translation to the original texts. The many other translations came about afterward and in my opinion there is ample evidence that they do change meaning of passages of scripture. Not good.