Baptist is not Reformed

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John146 said:
What are some examples that you have seen?
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A local baptist church is ran by a woman.
She does not preach or teach, but every thing is done here way or it is not done,
Baptist churches have, in the past rejected the universal church.
They taught that all the saved are he children of God but they stayed with the original meaning of the Greek word translated church, which was a LOCAL VISIBLE body.
I still hold that belief. Each local church being the body of Christ in the community they minister to.
Many have adopted the universal belief.
Many have in their doctrinal statement that Jesus could come at any time and rapture the universal church.
This was never taught in Baptist churches before about 1870.
A controversial subject that is not agreed on in any church I have been in in the last 50 years.
 
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John146 said:
Hilarious, but sad, that churches choose to put gender identity included in the statement.
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This is a recent addition and was voted on in a national meeting of member churches.
Some thought is necessary since so many denominations have now embraced the rights of those practicing this.
No member church is required to agree with this statement, and some disagree with some parts.
This is simply what a majority agree with,
There is no BOSS in the ABA churches except Jesus, and each local church decides how they do as the BOSS states,
 
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Howdy said:
A local baptist church is ran by a woman.
She does not preach or teach, but every thing is done here way or it is not done,
Baptist churches have, in the past rejected the universal church.
They taught that all the saved are he children of God but they stayed with the original meaning of the Greek word translated church, which was a LOCAL VISIBLE body.
I still hold that belief. Each local church being the body of Christ in the community they minister to.
Many have adopted the universal belief.
Many have in their doctrinal statement that Jesus could come at any time and rapture the universal church.
This was never taught in Baptist churches before about 1870.
A controversial subject that is not agreed on in any church I have been in in the last 50 years.
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Woman preacher in a baptist church. No need to read farther.
 
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Methodist church went off the rails and split a few years ago. My grand daughter went there. There is a bible church here I may check out.
 
NightTwister said:
I beg to differ:

https://www.apuritansmind.com/creeds-and-confessions/1689-baptist-confession/
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These were never agreed to buy all Baptist churches.
Most never heard of this. And most do not know of it today.
This was a small group and did not represent the majority.
As I stated before, the name Baptist on the sing does not mean the same to all and never has.
But in the South, most agreed on moat teachings until the SBC was organized and there are many SBC churches that have left the SBC in recent years because of the direction the leadership has taken the SBC.
 
DeanM said:
Methodist church went off the rails and split a few years ago. My grand daughter went there. There is a bible church here I may check out.
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When I was a kid in the last century, the local Baptist and Methodist agreed on many things.
Sad how the leaders have destroyed those churches.
 
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DeanM said:
Woman preacher in a baptist church. No need to read farther.
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There are some, but not many.
I believe God is a God of order.
Men are to lead. Not boss or dictate, but lead.
Women are to help and advise the man and teach the children and the younger women.
God gave women the gift of doing this most important job much better than a man can.
Both have a place in the local church, none greater than the other.
 
Howdy said:
There are some, but not many.
I believe God is a God of order.
Men are to lead. Not boss or dictate, but lead.
Women are to help and advise the man and teach the children and the younger women.
God gave women the gift of doing this most important job much better than a man can.
Both have a place in the local church, none greater than the other.
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Historically the baptists didnt allow women preachers. Once they did tells me they have gone woke.
 
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Howdy said:
These were never agreed to buy all Baptist churches.
Most never heard of this. And most do not know of it today.
This was a small group and did not represent the majority.
As I stated before, the name Baptist on the sing does not mean the same to all and never has.
But in the South, most agreed on moat teachings until the SBC was organized and there are many SBC churches that have left the SBC in recent years because of the direction the leadership has taken the SBC.
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They were agreed to by the reformed baptist churches, many of which are still around today. The SBC doesn't represent all baptist churches. Your initial post said, "Baptists (ana-Baptists) were never part of the reformed movement." That is an incorrect statement, and I produced evidence of this fact.
 
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DeanM said:
Historically the baptists didnt allow women preachers. Once they did tells me they have gone woke.
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Verse few. And it is the local church's decision.
There is no Baptist hierarchy to say yes or no.
Most Baptist will not associate with those few who have done so.
Don't make the mistake of putting all that wear the name Baptist in A single group.
Each is totally independent and makes it own decisions including who is called to be the pastor.
 
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NightTwister said:
They were agreed to by the reformed baptist churches, many of which are still around today. The SBC doesn't represent all baptist churches. Your initial post said, "Baptists (ana-Baptists) were never part of the reformed movement." That is an incorrect statement, and I produced evidence of this fact.
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NightTwister said:
They were agreed to by the reformed baptist churches, many of which are still around today. The SBC doesn't represent all baptist churches. Your initial post said, "Baptists (ana-Baptists) were never part of the reformed movement." That is an incorrect statement, and I produced evidence of this fact.
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I think someone else used the term ana-Baptist.
There have always been some that wear the name Baptist that have tried to make themselves rulers over others and many have refused to join in.
When you say ALL BAPTIST do this or that, that statement is wrong.
 
John146 said:
They are not true Baptist churches, by name only. There is a growing trend for these churches to drop the title Baptist from their name.
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I personally know of one.
It had grown in numbers very quickly after it was organized in a college town, but seemed to have leveled off at about 200 in attendance.
They decided to drop the name Baptist, and to stop teaching Baptist doctrine, and within 3 years they had grown to over 800.
The Pastor and other leaders were more interested in numbers than in preaching the Gospel.
During this process, they formed a board of elders who, alone with the pastor, took away the right of the members to have a voice in all decisions and put that power in the hands of this board.
They left the Baptist faith.

Each member in our congregation has an equal voice and vote on every thing the church does, including how each dollar is spent.
This is another distinctive of Baptist that some have abandoned.
 
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Nearly half of Baptist churches in the U.S. are Southern Baptist conservative, evangelical, and focused on the authority of Scripture, It is the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S.

The liberal Baptists are from the American Baptists church who split from the mainline Baptist over theological and social issues.

Reformed churches, are separate from Baptists and emphasize doctrines rooted in Reformed or Calvinistic theology.

The name on the church matters little; to know if it is good, you'll have to visit and discern whether the preacher has the Holy Spirit.
 
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There is only one body/church of Christ.
The original churches were local meetings in homes.
For a church or pastor to be all things to all people is impossible.
Thus, finding the right church is comparable to finding a soul mate.
I pray everyone will be the right Christian as they seek the right fellowship.
 
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