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Unitas

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Reformyourself said:
O yes, sorry, I believed in A G_d, but didn’t know Jesus, or that He was actually G_d in the flesh-also had virtually no idea about The Holy Spirit either, ie. that He could be grieved or quenched. (Until He left). I guess I thought He was ever merciful (and had been) to that point.
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Ok :) Did you follow another religion earlier?
 
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Reformyourself

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Unitas said:
Doesn't catholics believe in the Christian God?
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Cant speak for others, but I didn’t know or ‘get’ who Christ was. Eg. humanity needing a sinless sacrifice for salvation. It was more about being good and/or earning God’s acceptance (in our own strength, as I see it)
 
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Unitas

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Reformyourself said:
Cant speak for others, but I didn’t know or ‘get’ who Christ was. Eg. humanity needing a sinless sacrifice for salvation. It was more about being good and/or earning God’s acceptance (in our own strength, as I see it)
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I live in a catholic society (Poland). They seem to focus much praying for the dead to help them towards heaven. (if I understand it correct)
 
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Unitas said:
Doesn't catholics believe in the Christian God?
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Absolutely and acknowledge this during each church service, that God is three separate entities, the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit, comprising one God, and that Jesus died for our sins and He rose again on the third day.
 
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Subhumanoidal

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Unitas said:
Ok :)

Do you mean, they denying 400 years ago, meant the same as giving up does today?
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Yes. The KJV was translated, literally, centuries ago. And still holds to the language used at the time. NLT is a modern translation first put out roughly 15 years ago.
It's the same thing, just the type of language used varies due to the changes in the English language.
 
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Subhumanoidal

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Unitas said:
Doesn't catholics believe in the Christian God?
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Satan believes in the Christian God, as well. It doesn't help him any.
Catholics engage in many practices that go against Protestant Christian teachings. Such a praying to the dead, which is forbidden in the Old Testament.
 
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Unitas

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Subhumanoidal said:
Satan believes in the Christian God, as well. It doesn't help him any.
Catholics engage in many practices that go against Protestant Christian teachings. Such a praying to the dead, which is forbidden in the Old Testament.
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To the dead or for the dead?
 
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Subhumanoidal said:
Satan believes in the Christian God, as well. It doesn't help him any.
Catholics engage in many practices that go against Protestant Christian teachings. Such a praying to the dead, which is forbidden in the Old Testament.
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I believe that what was forbidden in the Old Testament was consulting the dead, and not the actual praying for the dead. Could be wrong on this though and it wouldn't be the first time.
 
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Unitas said:
To the dead or for the dead?
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Praying to the dead is forbidden. Or any attempt to contact them. Praying for the dead is fruitless. Protestants don't believe in limbo of any kind. When you die, there's nothing more you can do to affect your salvation. Nor anything anyone else can do.
 
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Unitas

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Subhumanoidal said:
Praying to the dead is forbidden. Or any attempt to contact them. Praying for the dead is fruitless. Protestants don't believe in limbo of any kind. When you die, there's nothing more you can do to affect your salvation. Nor anything anyone else can do.
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Makes sense for me :)
 
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any one who prays 'to the dead' are spiritually 'dead'...
 
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Subhumanoidal said:
Praying to the dead is forbidden. Or any attempt to contact them. Praying for the dead is fruitless. Protestants don't believe in limbo of any kind. When you die, there's nothing more you can do to affect your salvation. Nor anything anyone else can do.
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TRUE Sir, but I've been to several Catholic funerals where they prayed to the dead. Once we die, our destination is sealed. NOBODY can pray, or buy us into Heaven, or OUT of hell. ALL of the Saints, and Mary too, are dead, they should be praying to JESUS CHRIST instead of dead people.
 
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