Are they shooting a new apocalyptic movie in LA?

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People would be surprise how much local governments have been incompetent during these natural disasters throughout history. Look up the 1985 Armero Volcano tragedy in Colombia
 

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I'm of the opinion that people should have sympathy, shouldn't mock or be nonchalant about the innocent people living there just because it's a state where you don't like their politics
I have not seen anyone mocking
 

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Wow!

OK, I did some simple calculations. They said that 17,000 acres have been burned. So I took the average population density of Los Angeles county per acre and multiplied by 17,000 and got 220,000 people. Now consider how many stores that would also include. Now imagine the cost of an entire city of 220,000 people being burned to the ground (and note, the fire is not over, not by a long shot). That would be like Birmingham Alabama or Scottsdale Arizona burning to the ground. Now what happens when you have 220,000 refugees? Also there must be many people impacted because the place where they worked burned to the ground.

Now remember, their estimate of 17,000 acres burned is likely to be conservative and when all is said and done it will be much worse. I have noticed this on many disasters. At the time they estimate a certain amount of damage, you go back two years later and look it up and you find that the real number was generally twice what they told you at the time. For example in 2006, one year after Hurricane Katrina they estimated 40-50 billion in monetary losses (https://rwkates.org/pdfs/a2006.03.pdf). Today if you look it up Wikipedia has $125 billion in losses.

I also looked up the average home price in Los Angeles, it is almost $1 million. This fire may wind up costing over $100 billion.

If the final result of this is double the size of what they have told us you are looking at a city the size of Atlanta or Kansas city burning to the ground.
This article printed yesterday says that the total acres burned now is

A total of 36,386 total acres have burned in seven total fires in the last four days in the Los Angeles area. That is the equivalent of 57 square miles.

That is double what we were told the day before.

Thursday -- 17,000 acres

Friday -- 36,000 acres

https://www.ksbw.com/article/la-wildfires-santa-cruz-hollister-salinas/63396859
 

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Wow!

OK, I did some simple calculations. They said that 17,000 acres have been burned. So I took the average population density of Los Angeles county per acre and multiplied by 17,000 and got 220,000 people. Now consider how many stores that would also include. Now imagine the cost of an entire city of 220,000 people being burned to the ground (and note, the fire is not over, not by a long shot). That would be like Birmingham Alabama or Scottsdale Arizona burning to the ground. Now what happens when you have 220,000 refugees? Also there must be many people impacted because the place where they worked burned to the ground.

Now remember, their estimate of 17,000 acres burned is likely to be conservative and when all is said and done it will be much worse. I have noticed this on many disasters. At the time they estimate a certain amount of damage, you go back two years later and look it up and you find that the real number was generally twice what they told you at the time. For example in 2006, one year after Hurricane Katrina they estimated 40-50 billion in monetary losses (https://rwkates.org/pdfs/a2006.03.pdf). Today if you look it up Wikipedia has $125 billion in losses.

I also looked up the average home price in Los Angeles, it is almost $1 million. This fire may wind up costing over $100 billion.

If the final result of this is double the size of what they have told us you are looking at a city the size of Atlanta or Kansas city burning to the ground.
They are already estimating total damages at $150 billion and this fire isn't even over yet.


California wildfire devastation is 'apocalyptic,' Josh Flagg says
 
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Trump talks like he has a second grade education. How he became rich is beyond me
He got lucky. He got a lot of money from his dad. He exaggerated his own wealth for a long time; then he got The Apprentice show based on the false idea he was some great businessman, which generated a lot of cash for him. It wasn't anything he did really, except establish the Trump brand. He made his name synonymous with wealth and people bought it. People like to back a winner, whether he or she is really a winner or not; if they believe it, that's good enough.
 

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At this moment we should consider that this fire in LA was intentional. There is plenty of evidence to suggest they have been preparing for this to take place and if we are wrong that it is intentional we were simply giving them the benefit of the doubt. The only other explanation is that their incompetence and corruptions is much worse.

However, if this fire was intentional to get the land cheap, then that makes it even more likely that this was also the case in Lahaina.

And if those two were intentional to clear the land of the peasants and open it up to new development, then you have to remember the mortgage meltdown did pretty much the same thing, a plan on making money by having people pay for homes for five years then pull the rug out on them and retake possession of the house which you can then sell again.

That in turn leads us to the spirit of Caesar Nero who did the exact same thing, and the number of his name is the same as the number of the name of the Antichrist and so what we are seeing is the spirit of the Antichrist in a huge way. Sure this kind of thing has been done many times, but the scale now is so huge that it can no longer be hidden from others.
 
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I'm of the opinion that people should have sympathy, shouldn't mock or be nonchalant about the innocent people living there just because it's a state where you don't like their politics
Yeah I've been saying this. As if people deserve to have their homes burned for having political opinions. But conservatism is antithetical to empathy
 

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Yeah I've been saying this. As if people deserve to have their homes burned for having political opinions. But conservatism is antithetical to empathy
Good point

Luke 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? 3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
 
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Good point

Luke 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? 3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Thanks for proving my point
 

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Thanks for proving my point
Yes, the way to understand this is not that LA is more sinful than the rest of the world, but that what we are seeing happen there will happen to us as well on the day of Judgement unless we repent.
 
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Yes, the way to understand this is not that LA is more sinful than the rest of the world, but that what we are seeing happen there will happen to us as well on the day of Judgement unless we repent.
Only one of us is rejoicing about people's houses being burned. Repent for that
 

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Only one of us is rejoicing about people's houses being burned. Repent for that
Only you would equate paying close attention to what is going on as "rejoicing about people's houses being burned"

I am watching and warning concerning the Lord's coming. I have been doing that since the day I came to this forum.

Luke 12:37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

So I'll listen to the Lord and file your suggestions where they belong.
 

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Massive Palisades fire now threatens nearby Brentwood and Encino

Do not worry the mayor is going to do a complete investigation after the fires are put out to see if there was anything they could have done to keep from having an area the size of Atlanta Georgia burn down every time it gets windy in LA.
 

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Massive Palisades fire now threatens nearby Brentwood and Encino

Do not worry the mayor is going to do a complete investigation after the fires are put out to see if there was anything they could have done to keep from having an area the size of Atlanta Georgia burn down every time it gets windy in LA.
Let's hope the Mayor's investigation includes determining if this had an impact

Leaked memo reveals LA Mayor Karen Bass demanded her fire department cut an extra $49 million just ONE WEEK before wildfires broke out

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-karen-bass-fires-department-budget-cuts.html
 

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Only you would equate paying close attention to what is going on as "rejoicing about people's houses being burned"

I am watching and warning concerning the Lord's coming. I have been doing that since the day I came to this forum.

Luke 12:37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

So I'll listen to the Lord and file your suggestions where they belong.
you can watch, as Jesus said.

but, reading Revelations should make you a bit sad about the judgement being brought to non-believers...
 

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you can watch, as Jesus said.

but, reading Revelations should make you a bit sad about the judgement being brought to non-believers...
Jesus said that you must forgive 70x7 times. That is 490 times. That is a very long time, but it is not infinite, it is not eternity, at some point you must appear before the judgement seat.

The gospel was preached to the four corners of the earth. If you give each corner 490 years to repent that comes to 1,960 years. The next year could therefore be the year that judgment falls. 1961 +70 AD when the temple was destroyed the church was dispersed to the four corners of the earth gives you 2031 AD.

This is not a trivial conjecture. Jesus said the only sign that would be given this evil and adulterous age is the sign of Jonah. In that sign Jonah preached for forty days walking up and down throughout the streets telling them to repent for in 40 days they will be overthrown. 1,961 years is 40 jubilees. Because the jubilee year is the 50th year many think 40 jubilees would be 2,000 years. But that is not how a jubilee is calculated. The Jews measure years by seven, a week of years. After seven weeks of years, the next year is the jubilee year which is also the first year of the 8th week. Ten jubilees would be 10x49+1 or 491 years. 40 jubilees is 40x49+1 = 1961 years.

Just like when you take an exam that has a time limit. Time is up. I am not sad about this, because this age was always supposed to be temporary with a wedding at the end. Everyone has been invited, if they don't want to go, that is up to them. If they would rather have a big house with a swimming pool on the Palisades in California, that is their choice. God respects man's right to free will. As for me, I would rather have Jesus.
 

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Families, firefighters in shock as California wildfires continue | 60 Minutes
 

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Jesus said that you must forgive 70x7 times. That is 490 times. That is a very long time, but it is not infinite, it is not eternity, at some point you must appear before the judgement seat.

The gospel was preached to the four corners of the earth. If you give each corner 490 years to repent that comes to 1,960 years. The next year could therefore be the year that judgment falls. 1961 +70 AD when the temple was destroyed the church was dispersed to the four corners of the earth gives you 2031 AD.

This is not a trivial conjecture. Jesus said the only sign that would be given this evil and adulterous age is the sign of Jonah. In that sign Jonah preached for forty days walking up and down throughout the streets telling them to repent for in 40 days they will be overthrown. 1,961 years is 40 jubilees. Because the jubilee year is the 50th year many think 40 jubilees would be 2,000 years. But that is not how a jubilee is calculated. The Jews measure years by seven, a week of years. After seven weeks of years, the next year is the jubilee year which is also the first year of the 8th week. Ten jubilees would be 10x49+1 or 491 years. 40 jubilees is 40x49+1 = 1961 years.

Just like when you take an exam that has a time limit. Time is up. I am not sad about this, because this age was always supposed to be temporary with a wedding at the end. Everyone has been invited, if they don't want to go, that is up to them. If they would rather have a big house with a swimming pool on the Palisades in California, that is their choice. God respects man's right to free will. As for me, I would rather have Jesus.
i basically agree, but also, when Jesus said no man knows the day and the hour, that means everyone.

so, if you watch, you do not to try to figure out when , you will be ready whenever the time comes.

as i heard a pastor say a long time ago, " stay ready, then you won't have to get ready".
 

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i basically agree, but also, when Jesus said no man knows the day and the hour, that means everyone.

so, if you watch, you do not to try to figure out when , you will be ready whenever the time comes.

as i heard a pastor say a long time ago, " stay ready, then you won't have to get ready".
So that means we don't know the day of the rapture. OK, but did Jesus ever say we don't know the day that the two witnesses are killed? No. In fact Paul said that the Holy days in the Bible are a shadow of things to come.

We are told that when the two witnesses are killed the Jews have to flee to the wilderness. That is a picture of Israel rejecting the two spies, Caleb and Joshua. Caleb denotes the Gentiles who are raptured and Joshua denotes Jesus. So then the 9th of Av is a shadow of the day the Jews rejected the two witnesses and were cursed to die in the wilderness.

Well the ministry of the two witnesses is 1,260 days. So that gives us a very precise picture of when their ministry begins. Jesus told the foolish virgins who were not ready for the wedding feast to go to those who sold oil. Many assume that is the two olive trees, the two witnesses.

Also, how about the day that Israel is raised up after the curse is over? According to Hosea at the end of two days they will be revived and on the third day they will be raised up. Jesus never said we don't know the day that takes place. Sure enough there is another holy day on the Jewish calendar when the Jews were raised up after the curse ended. Every year on the 9th of Av they would dig graves and lie in them and a portion of them would die in that night. Then when the curse was over they thought they might have miscalculated the day and they continued to lie in the graves until the 15th, a full moon, when they realized the curse was over. The 15th of Av they rose up out of the graves and the curse was over. Well, David ruled in Hebron (which signifies heaven) for 7 1/2 years before he went to Jerusalem. So if you go back a half year from the 15th of Av you come to the same day of the year that you get if you go back 1,260 days from the 9th of Av.

But we know more than that. Samson pushing out the two pillars took place on a big pagan holiday. It just so turns out that the day you arrive at if you go back 1,260 days from the 9th of Av or a half year from the 15th of Av is a big pagan holiday.

None of those clues tells you the day, but they definitely narrow it down. Proverbs 7:20 says the Lord returns on a full moon. That narrows it down as well. Jesus told the Jewish disciples that they didn't know the day, that tells me it is not one of the Holy days on the Jewish calendar, that also narrows it down.

Jeremiah tells you that the summer is over and the harvest is past when those who are left behind are left behind. That also narrows it down.