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Well, he does hold to "King James version only". Some call that a cult.
I wouldn’t say that is a cult but just kinda strange that they don’t give any other translations a chance…especially like NIV or ESV.
Are giants the offspring of angels and humans?
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I wouldn’t say that is a cult but just kinda strange that they don’t give any other translations a chance…especially like NIV or ESV.
I think I have an opposing view on the overall topic.
However, I completely agree you're dealing with a lot of bad arguments.
You always make a good case for your views, and I would encourage your opponents to step it up and bring their A game, lol.
Have a great week.
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Angels in heaven are the faithful angels to God. "In Heaven."
They remain safe because God supplied them with an abundance of grace to be celibate.
Fallen angels, many are confined to earth....
The question I have yet to see be asked?
Why did God create angels with the ability to procreate in the first place?
There is an answer for that.
grace and peace .........
But, the Hebrew says nothing about marriage.
1~~Now it came to pass,
when mankind {literally 'adam - came to be used for 'mankind'}
had begun to 'become numerous'/multiply
on the face of the ground {adamah},
and daughters/'beautiful women' had been born unto them . . .
2~~that the angels {beni ha Elohiym idiom: literally sons of 'elohiym/gods}
kept watching the daughters of mankind . . .that they were very beautiful . . .
and they took/'seized passionately' to them women {'ishshah} of all whom
they examined and selected. {here is a masculine plural suffix signifying
'it happened, but was irregular'}
Vs 2.) They took and seized, passionately, the women....
It does not say, 'married' them.
Certain prudish translators shied away from that one.
All of it is in scripture except for how we will all be males, but that is a strong conclusion when comparing scripture with scripture. You should try it sometime.
Well, he does hold to "King James version only". Some call that a cult.
If bible believing is a cult...guilty. You should try that as well.
Ya'll crack me up with the "cult" thing. Are you a bible believer or bible corrector? The latter is a cult.
A strong conclusion when Paul explicitly said there is neither male not female in Christ?
Again, that is our spiritual state, in Christ. That's not a reference to our physical state. In the resurrection, we will have physical bodies of flesh and bone like Christ. We are a tri-part being, body, soul, and spirit. All parts of us will be made new and united together.
Why did God create angels with the ability to leave their own habitation? Why did God create angels who would eventually rebel with Lucifer? Ask away when we get to heaven.
Spiritually, in Christ....spiritually, Abraham's seed. Context, context, context...
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Still no reply on how or where the giants in the earth came from? In Noah's day and after that?
Well the logical conclusion is that those bodies will be asexual, ie neither male nor female, just as Paul said. I don't understand the resistance to this idea. It must be due to a carnal frame of reference that can't imagine another reality
I gave you the answer that all of the supposed half-breeds died in the flood, so the giants in Israel's time couldn't have descended from them. And that gigantism is a natural phenomenon based on genetic factors.
It is a denial that we will have physical bodies. God created the human body in the beginning to be male or female. You are comparing spiritual things to physical things.
I gave you the answer that all of the supposed half-breeds died in the flood, so the giants in Israel's time couldn't have descended from them. And that gigantism is a natural phenomenon based on genetic factors.
Half breeds died in the flood, but not the fallen angels. They continued their perverse ways after the flood. It was an all out attack on the seed line of Genesis 3:15. Plan A, murder the seed. Plan B, corrupt the seed line.
I agree there's a spiritual body. God created the natural body with sex organs. You apparently can't conceive of a spiritual body without sex organs.
Are you really presuming to tell us what God would or would not permit as an argument? Sorry for just jumping in here, I've read a lot of the conversation so far and this just really jumped out at me. I'm not even trying to debate the topic one way or the other here in this comment, but is your argument here really telling us what God will and will not allow? I don't think you get to just "claim" that as your own victory here. It's like asking why God allowed the fall of mankind. Can you tell us that too? From an outside perspective this argument holds no water at all and isn't the proper way to handle scripture in these matters. What we may think God would or would not allow is irrelevant when studying what the word says. Some would say God allowing someone to get into a motorcycle wreak and lose all function of his right arm leading to a two year downward spiral that had him wishing for death and uncontrollable suicidal thoughts all day every day, is something He would never do and is heartless and cold and He'd never do that. But I thank Him every day for it because it led me to Him.
Again I'm not commenting on the Gen 6 thing at all here, just saying we don't really get to do what you're doing here as a "win by default" kind of tactic.
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