Applying God's Word to Politics

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Yes, we are not of this world, but I feel that we can elect someone who supports our faith and keeps us relatively safe, and who doesn’t believe in the crazy views of the liberals.

MAGA is a good thing! It doesn’t mean big government, it’s more about taking care of the people.

Really?
Still some americans believing this?
 
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The dictator Trump supressed and mocked the very High Court of the United States of America.
Don't you Americans see what is going on ? Trump wants to be a dictator... oppose the dictator !

Greetings from Europe... a part of the world awfully used to dictators the last 100 years, but just because of that,
we know it when we see them.....
 
The dictator Trump supressed and mocked the very High Court of the United States of America.
Don't you Americans see what is going on ? Trump wants to be a dictator... oppose the dictator !

Greetings from Europe... a part of the world awfully used to dictators the last 100 years, but just because of that,
we know it when we see them.....
You should probably worry about your own country. I believe yall have enough problems in Europe to worry about.
 
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That's exactly - and you'r taking my words out of my mouth - that's exactly what I would say to you Americans :
You have a lot of problems in US to worry about.
Stay frosty my Nordic friend , don't let anyone get under your skin , I don't want u to disappear from this site so , behave yourself accordingly ❤️ .
 
Stay frosty my Nordic friend , don't let anyone get under your skin , I don't want u to disappear from this site so , behave yourself accordingly

I appreciate your answer Suze, but honestly - I cannot see that my behavior here has been so bad that it might qualify to disapperance.... I will stay put as long as it gives meaning to me !!
 
I appreciate your answer Suze, but honestly - I cannot see that my behavior here has been so bad that it might qualify to disapperance.... I will stay put as long as it gives meaning to me !!
I don't think that your behaviour is bad ! But , I'm not the boss on here ❤️ , I like having u around !
 
I like having u around !

Not only - but sort of in the wholeness of everything - I not only appreciate your kind answer, but I also will say the exact in response to you, and make an addition: You are most appreciated. Stay put. Spread love and good happiness to humans around you. Love and hugs from Norway .....
 
Oooo I get it NC means new covenant ! Sorry I'm not great with any kind of abbreviation . So , I will give just a few old testament verses for u to c what u think they might mean and b refering to , if that's ok . Numbers Ch 14 v 21 . Habakkuk Ch 2 V 14 . Job Ch 19 v 25-27 and 2nd Samuel Ch 12 V 15-23 . Have a look and let me know what u think , have these prophecies been fulfilled ?
Now to the new , Matthew ch 19 v 27-30 . Mark Ch 8 v 34-38 and also Ch 10 v 18-30 . Luke Ch 17 v 20-37 ( which connects to Isaiah Ch 40 v 31 ) , also Ch 18 v 18-30 , Ch 19 v 11-27 and Ch 22 v 24-30 . John Ch 21 v 23 . 1st Corinthians Ch 15 . Revelation Ch 19 , 20 , 22 and 22 . Hope these help u in your journey ❤️ .
 
Not only - but sort of in the wholeness of everything - I not only appreciate your kind answer, but I also will say the exact in response to you, and make an addition: You are most appreciated. Stay put. Spread love and good happiness to humans around you. Love and hugs from Norway .....
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Americans reading this and supporting Mr Trump ... ?

Please turn around. You are on the dark side. Trump is not a christian. He wants to be a dictator, just see his latest attack on the Supreme Court. He doesn't respect the rules of a real democracy. He is in his mind a dictator and he wants to have the full control.

Stop supporting Trump. Stop supporting anti-democratic forces. Join the good side.

May the force be with you.
 
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A fair question.

The big problem here is that christianity is divided into so many branches, so many churches, so many opinions of this or that...
One might be confused. And I am confused.

The christian society is so diversified that it's impossible to come with at straight answer to these things. Better than asking "Do you believe in God" is asking "What sort of God do you believe in".

Your confusion is understandable. The freedom of religion in the USA in the 1600s caused the proliferation of denominations that confused Joseph Smith, so he asked God which one was true and perceived God's answer was "None of them, so start a worse one." Well, the second part of that answer is mine. What I believe is God's answer and the key to becoming less confused is to distinguish between what beliefs are essential and which are secondary and more debatable. When one does this he finds that all Christian denominations agree on what I call the kerygma, which I summarize as follows:

A crisis that threatened a Philippian jailer with death prompted him to ask Paul and Silas the most important question in life: “What must I do to be saved?” (Acts 16:30) This question, "What is God's requirement for salvation?" (GRFS) is most important, because—as sinful and mortal souls—we need saving from corruption, both moral and physical. We need saving from physical death if we value or enjoy life, and we need saving from immorality or evil-doing if it results in unhappy existence, especially after this lifetime.

Jesus expressed GRFS succinctly by saying “Repent” (Matt. 4:17) and “Ask… seek… knock…” (Matt. 7:7, Heb. 11:6, Isa. 45:19), implying that God gives every sinful soul the ability to repent and seek salvation (cf. 1Tim. 2:3-4, 2Tim. 2:25, Ezek. 33:11), which might be why Paul said sinners are saved “by grace through faith” (Eph. 2:8-9, Tit. 2:11). Seeking God is the beginning of saving faith, and not repenting or rejecting God’s salvation in Christ is the essence of evil atheism or faith in I-dolatry (Rom. 3:11, 1:18-23).

The reply of Paul and Silas to the jailer was, “Believe in the Lord Jesus.” (Acts 16:31). This is GRFS in a nutshell: “Accept Christ Jesus as Lord” (as also in 2Cor. 4:5 & Col. 2:6). The main points of Christian orthodoxy implicit in this statement can be explained or elaborated as follows:
  1. There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or Creator God (Deut. 6:4, John 3:16, 2Thes. 1:6), who loves sinful humanity (Rom. 5:6-8, John 3:16) and who is both able (2Tim. 1:12) and willing (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
  2. Human beings are selfish or sinful (Rom. 3:23, 2Tim. 3:2-4, Col. 3:5), miserable (Gal. 5:19-21), and hopeless (Eph. 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (Matt. 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (John 3:18, Rom. 2:5-11).
  3. Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (John 3:16, Acts 16:30-31, Phil. 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1Cor. 15:14-28).
  4. Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God’s grace or justification in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (Luke 2:11, John 14:6, Acts 16:31), at which moment God’s loving Holy Spirit of Christ indwells/baptizes the believer into the church (Rev. 3:20, Rom. 5:5, 1Cor. 12:13).
  5. Loving Christ Jesus as Lord (Luke 2:11), God the Son (Matt. 16:16) or God in the human dimension (Col. 2:9) means reflecting divine love (DL) as empowered by the Holy Spirit, thereby obeying His command to love one another (Matt. 7:21, 22:37-40, John 13:35, Rom. 13:9)—forever (Matt. 10:22, Psa. 113:2), which will eventually achieve spiritual maturity on earth and heaven after Christ returns at God’s resurrection (John 14:6, 17&26, Rom. 8:6-17, Gal. 6:7-9, Eph. 1:13-14, Phil. 3:12-16, Heb. 10:36, 12:1, Jam. 1:2-4).
GRFS may be denoted by the use of the Greek word kerygma, meaning proclamation or preaching, referring to the good news (Gospel) concerning salvation to heaven and from a just hell (the DOD, cf. Rom. 1:16, Gal. 1:6-12, Col. 1:21-23). This Gospel was preached by Peter (in Acts 2:22-24) and summarized by Paul (in 1Cor. 15:1-8). The salient points include: Jesus was a man (1Tim. 1:16), accredited by his sinless life (Heb. 4:15) and ministry (John 10:37-38) to be God’s Messiah, who died on a cross as the sacrifice for humanity’s sins (Rom. 3:25), but who was resurrected from the dead to show his divinity (1Cor. 15:20, Rom. 1:1-4). Messiah is the Way to heaven (John 14:6).

An obvious question to ask at this point is, “What is GRFS for those who have never heard of Jesus?” (which includes everyone living B.C. and millions of people who have lived A.D.) If God loves the world (John 3:16) and wants everyone to be saved (2Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11), then He must provide an opportunity. God’s just judgment is illustrated by Jesus in the Parable of the Talents (Matt. 25:14-29), which indicates that God will judge souls on the basis of the truth (Word = Christ per John 1:1f.) they have received.
 
That's exactly - and you'r taking my words out of my mouth - that's exactly what I would say to you Americans :
You have a lot of problems in US to worry about.

Yes, we do, caused by Marxists (see post #1,253), which Trump/MAGA is trying to solve,
so do not confuse his/MAGA's frustration re SCOTUS with Marxism.
No false equivalence!
 
Applying Christian beliefs to politics has been problematic ever since Peter told the Sanhedrin "We must obey God rather than men!" (Acts 5:29)

How should we do this in the current political situation to issues such as national borders, abortion, globalism and lawfare?

-"Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on
themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute
wrath on him who practices evil. Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing.
Romans 13:1-6 NKJV

If the government tries to protect Christian values so much the better, as this admin is doing. The last admin, NOT at all!!
 
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Americans reading this and supporting Mr Trump ... ?

Please turn around. You are on the dark side. Trump is not a christian. He wants to be a dictator, just see his latest attack on the Supreme Court. He doesn't respect the rules of a real democracy. He is in his mind a dictator and he wants to have the full control.

Stop supporting Trump. Stop supporting anti-democratic forces. Join the good side.

May the force be with you.

You’re an example of calling Good things bad, and Bad things good. You call Black white, and White black. Messed up!!