Applying God's Word to Politics

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Suze said:
R u serious ? Is that true ? U really did have to vote to disallow sharia law ? I'm gobsmacked ! Nothing like that in the UK , not as far as I know . The muslims may handle things in private their own way but , if they contravene UK law or if anyone complains about it , they would b in trouble .
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I've seen UK Imams advocating for blasphemy laws that would include the death penalty for insulting Islam or burning their unholy book. The UK has no freedom of speech laws.

Perhaps because I do not live in the UK, I see reports that seem to be suppressed in the UK. Islam is taking over, even if only by demographics. I've seen the manifesto of a youthful Muslim group that fully intends to take over the UK and impose Sharia law. They are well organised and well funded. I've seen how London police harass Christians legally preaching the gospel. Have you heard of Harmony London? She is a young believer who is a busker. She has also been harassed by a volunteer cop, not even the real thing.

King Charles is supposed to be Defender of the faith. It would be easy to imagine that he is more interested in defending Islam. He praised Islam and Muslims in his Easter address.

I pray against Islam daily, declaring it to be Satan's work that Jesus came to destroy. The more people who pray, the better.
 
Suze said:
We don't need a MEGA government any more than the us needs a MAGA one , people r not going to fix any thing , we made the mess in the first place , ONLY GOD , through Christ is going to save us , Why worry so much about worldly things ? We r not of this world ! We shouldn't allow it's pride and vanity and greed and lies and misinformation to cling to us . All we need is the Truth in our hearts and that makes us clean from this world . We cannot change this world , we may b able to change a few small things around us personally , but only the return of Christ is going to make things right . Politics is irrelevant to us , God is our Sovereign and He should reign in us , not politicians and all of their self serving rubbish .
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My best friend has the same attitude, which explains why both the US & UK are in decline/losing political freedoms to Islam and Marxism.
 
Suze said:
It used to b that most muslims here were from Pakistan , now we have a fair few from Iran and Afghanistan also . The Indians that we have here r mostly Hindus , Sikhs and a few Buddhists .
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They used to joke, your national dish was chicken curry, or something? Actually, I loved your fish and chips more. Yum!
 
Suze said:
We don't need a MEGA government any more than the us needs a MAGA one , people r not going to fix any thing , we made the mess in the first place , ONLY GOD , through Christ is going to save us , Why worry so much about worldly things ? We r not of this world ! We shouldn't allow its pride and vanity and greed and lies and misinformation to cling to us . All we need is the Truth in our hearts and that makes us clean from this world . We cannot change this world , we may b able to change a few small things around us personally , but only the return of Christ is going to make things right . Politics is irrelevant to us , God is our Sovereign and He should reign in us , not politicians and all of their self serving rubbish .
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Yes, we are not of this world, but I feel that we can elect someone who supports our faith and keeps us relatively safe, and who doesn’t believe in the crazy views of the liberals.

MAGA is a good thing! It doesn’t mean big government, it’s more about taking care of the people.
 
Suze said:
We don't need a MEGA government any more than the us needs a MAGA one , people r not going to fix any thing , we made the mess in the first place , ONLY GOD , through Christ is going to save us , Why worry so much about worldly things ? We r not of this world ! We shouldn't allow it's pride and vanity and greed and lies and misinformation to cling to us . All we need is the Truth in our hearts and that makes us clean from this world . We cannot change this world , we may b able to change a few small things around us personally , but only the return of Christ is going to make things right . Politics is irrelevant to us , God is our Sovereign and He should reign in us , not politicians and all of their self serving rubbish .
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Brilliant comment Suze, think you gladdened the Lord's heart too.
 
TruthDefender said:
Yes, we are not of this world, but I feel that we can elect someone who supports our faith and keeps us relatively safe, and who doesn’t believe in the crazy views of the liberals.

MAGA is a good thing! It doesn’t mean big government, it’s more about taking care of the people.
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GOD keeps us safe ! No one else ❤️ .
 
GWH said:
My best friend has the same attitude, which explains why both the US & UK are in decline/losing political freedoms to Islam and Marxism.
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🙄 I think I'm banging my head against a brick wall here . I don't want to b rude , I really don't , I like u and I enjoy your posts but I just don't get u . U have read the Bible yes ? U believe what it says ? So why r u still bound up with this world ? Remember Lots wife ! ❤️
 
LifelongLearner said:
Brilliant comment Suze, think you gladdened the Lord's heart too.
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Your attitude explains why nations God blessed with freedom and prosperity are in decline/losing political freedoms to Islam and Marxism, which I doubt gladdens the Lord's heart. It is more likely it disgusts Him, like the one who wasted his one talent (Matt. 25:26).
 
GWH said:
Your attitude explains why nations God blessed with freedom and prosperity are in decline/losing political freedoms to Islam and Marxism, which I doubt gladdens the Lord's heart. It is more likely it disgusts Him, like the one who wasted his one talent (Matt. 25:26).
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🤷 Ok , I give up .
 
Suze said:
GOD keeps us safe ! No one else ❤️ .
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Yes, but He uses others too.

-"Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on
themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute
wrath on him who practices evil. Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing.
Romans 13:1-6 NKJV

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Gideon300 said:
I've seen UK Imams advocating for blasphemy laws that would include the death penalty for insulting Islam or burning their unholy book. The UK has no freedom of speech laws.

Perhaps because I do not live in the UK, I see reports that seem to be suppressed in the UK. Islam is taking over, even if only by demographics. I've seen the manifesto of a youthful Muslim group that fully intends to take over the UK and impose Sharia law. They are well organised and well funded. I've seen how London police harass Christians legally preaching the gospel. Have you heard of Harmony London? She is a young believer who is a busker. She has also been harassed by a volunteer cop, not even the real thing.

King Charles is supposed to be Defender of the faith. It would be easy to imagine that he is more interested in defending Islam. He praised Islam and Muslims in his Easter address.

I pray against Islam daily, declaring it to be Satan's work that Jesus came to destroy. The more people who pray, the better.
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Jesus came to preach the kingdom of God, not to destroy; destruction will be in the end, when He returns to separate the sheep from the goats.
 
Suze said:
We don't need a MEGA government any more than the us needs a MAGA one , people r not going to fix any thing , we made the mess in the first place , ONLY GOD , through Christ is going to save us , Why worry so much about worldly things ? We r not of this world ! We shouldn't allow it's pride and vanity and greed and lies and misinformation to cling to us . All we need is the Truth in our hearts and that makes us clean from this world . We cannot change this world , we may b able to change a few small things around us personally , but only the return of Christ is going to make things right . Politics is irrelevant to us , God is our Sovereign and He should reign in us , not politicians and all of their self serving rubbish .
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Please clarify, “but only the return of Christ is going to make things right?”
 
GWH said:
Applying Christian beliefs to politics has been problematic ever since Peter told the Sanhedrin "We must obey God rather than men!" (Acts 5:29)

How should we do this in the current political situation to issues such as national borders, abortion, globalism and lawfare?
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A fair question.

The big problem here is that christianity is divided into so many branches, so many churches, so many opinions of this or that...
One might be confused. And I am confused.

The christian society is so diversified that it's impossible to come with at straight answer to these things. Better than asking "Do you believe in God" is asking "What sort of God do you believe in".
 
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