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Churches should be teaching about the benefits of getting married early, how to choose a spouse, the benefits of having the right spouse. It can lessen the chances of forication. You have those strong desires for a short period of time. That is the time to bond physically and spiritually with a spouse. If you're not called to the singles life and abstain like Paul, don't do it. It's not your calling. Don't let anyone pressure you into a calling you don't have.
God disciplines those He loves He doesn’t send them to Hell when they get things wrong. They may enter as if by fire but ...sends them to Hell?? They are His children, they need to learn and repent... disobedience will cost them... sin is never worth what it costs the sinner, sinning is always loss. God is faithful, however, even when we are not, the Bible says.
1 John 5:11-13
"And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."
Sone may be tired of me posting this, but brother Anderson's short message to this class in Guyana is another good sound Biblical explanation on the topic of sin and believers verses UNbelievers.
"And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."
Sone may be tired of me posting this, but brother Anderson's short message to this class in Guyana is another good sound Biblical explanation on the topic of sin and believers verses UNbelievers.
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I'm pretty sure it's safe to allege that everybody on this thread is a repeat
offender in one way or another; especially when it comes to dishonesty;
which is potentially a fatal behavior.
• Rev 22:15 . . Outside are . . . everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
• Rev 21:8 . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and
brimstone, which is the second death.
I'll take the initiative and be first to admit that I am a liar with no intention
of discontinuing the practice because I cannot stop being dishonest with any
more ease than a termite can be a squid.
• Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?
Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil.
There are quite a number of folks who make their livings by means of
dishonesty, e.g. the FBI, the CIA, the Police, and career politicians. I think it
fair to say those folks wouldn't survive very long in their line of work were
they to be 100% honest. So; are they in a hopeless situation? No; God has
provided a safety net for professional liars and it's a pretty good one too.
• Luke 2:8-14 . . And in the same region there were some shepherds staying
out in the fields, and keeping watch over their flock by night. And an angel
of The Lord suddenly stood before them, and the glory of The Lord shone
around them; and they were terribly frightened.
. . . And the angel said to them: Don't be afraid; for behold, I bring you
good news of a great joy which shall be for all the people; for today in the
city of David there has been born for you a savior, who is Messiah, the Lord.
Saviors can be defined as those trained and equipped to rescue desperate
folks from danger or destruction that they themselves are utterly helpless to
escape.
Rescuing is what the Coast Guard does when boats capsize. Rescuing is what
Firemen do when people are trapped inside burning buildings. Rescuing is
what mountaineer teams do when climbers are in trouble. Rescuing is what
EMT paramedics do when someone needs to get to a hospital in a hurry; and
kept alive till they arrive. Rescuing is what surgeons do when someone
needs an organ transplant.
I could go on and on giving examples of rescuer after rescuer; but I think we
get the idea. The New Testament's Jesus rescues people from the wrath of
God-- people who fully deserve it, and definitely in line to get it.
• Matt 18:11 . .For the Son of Man has come to rescue that which was lost.
• Mark 10:45 . .For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to
serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.
* Webster's defines a "ransom" as a consideration paid or demanded for the
release of someone or some thing from captivity.
Now; the old covenant that Moses' people entered into with God on oath per
Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy provides neither rescue
nor ransom for repeat offenders. (Num 15:30-31 & Heb 10:26-27)
whereas the new covenant does.
• Acts 13:38-39 . . Let it be known to you, brethren, that through this man is
preached to you the forgiveness of sins; and by him everyone who believes
is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of
Moses.
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I'm pretty sure it's safe to allege that everybody on this thread is a repeat
offender in one way or another; especially when it comes to dishonesty;
which is potentially a fatal behavior.
• Rev 22:15 . . Outside are . . . everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
• Rev 21:8 . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and
brimstone, which is the second death.
I'll take the initiative and be first to admit that I am a liar with no intention
of discontinuing the practice because I cannot stop being dishonest with any
more ease than a termite can be a squid.
• Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?
Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil.
There are quite a number of folks who make their livings by means of
dishonesty, e.g. the FBI, the CIA, the Police, and career politicians. I think it
fair to say those folks wouldn't survive very long in their line of work were
they to be 100% honest. So; are they in a hopeless situation? No; God has
provided a safety net for professional liars and it's a pretty good one too.
• Luke 2:8-14 . . And in the same region there were some shepherds staying
out in the fields, and keeping watch over their flock by night. And an angel
of The Lord suddenly stood before them, and the glory of The Lord shone
around them; and they were terribly frightened.
. . . And the angel said to them: Don't be afraid; for behold, I bring you
good news of a great joy which shall be for all the people; for today in the
city of David there has been born for you a savior, who is Messiah, the Lord.
Saviors can be defined as those trained and equipped to rescue desperate
folks from danger or destruction that they themselves are utterly helpless to
escape.
Rescuing is what the Coast Guard does when boats capsize. Rescuing is what
Firemen do when people are trapped inside burning buildings. Rescuing is
what mountaineer teams do when climbers are in trouble. Rescuing is what
EMT paramedics do when someone needs to get to a hospital in a hurry; and
kept alive till they arrive. Rescuing is what surgeons do when someone
needs an organ transplant.
I could go on and on giving examples of rescuer after rescuer; but I think we
get the idea. The New Testament's Jesus rescues people from the wrath of
God-- people who fully deserve it, and definitely in line to get it.
• Matt 18:11 . .For the Son of Man has come to rescue that which was lost.
• Mark 10:45 . .For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to
serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.
* Webster's defines a "ransom" as a consideration paid or demanded for the
release of someone or some thing from captivity.
Now; the old covenant that Moses' people entered into with God on oath per
Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy provides neither rescue
nor ransom for repeat offenders. (Num 15:30-31 & Heb 10:26-27)
whereas the new covenant does.
• Acts 13:38-39 . . Let it be known to you, brethren, that through this man is
preached to you the forgiveness of sins; and by him everyone who believes
is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of
Moses.
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I am not sure why you are responding as if I said something debatable?
It's not open for debate. If people in your church are fornicating you should tell them that they need to stop or they will wake up in hell with eternal regret. If you tell them that God will let them go ahead and keep doing it, as long as they agree to some doctrinal statement then you will wake up in hell with eternal regret.
14But I have a few things against you. You have some there who hold to the teaching of Balaam,a who taught Balak to place a stumbling blockA in front of the Israelites: to eat meat sacrificed to idolsb and to commit sexual immorality.c 15In the same way, you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans.A 16So repent! Otherwise, I will come to you quicklya and fight against them with the sword of my mouth.b
20But I have this against you: You tolerate the woman Jezebel,a who calls herself a prophetess and teaches and deceives my servants to commit sexual immorality and to eat meat sacrificed to idols.b 21I gave her time to repent,a but she does not want to repent of her sexual immorality.b 22Look, I will throw her into a sickbeda and those who commit adultery with herb into great affliction.c Unless they repent of herA works, 23I will strike her children dead.a a Then all the churches will know that I am the one who examines minds and hearts,b and I will give to each of you according to your work
It's not open for debate. If people in your church are fornicating you should tell them that they need to stop or they will wake up in hell with eternal regret. If you tell them that God will let them go ahead and keep doing it, as long as they agree to some doctrinal statement then you will wake up in hell with eternal regret.
14But I have a few things against you. You have some there who hold to the teaching of Balaam,a who taught Balak to place a stumbling blockA in front of the Israelites: to eat meat sacrificed to idolsb and to commit sexual immorality.c 15In the same way, you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans.A 16So repent! Otherwise, I will come to you quicklya and fight against them with the sword of my mouth.b
20But I have this against you: You tolerate the woman Jezebel,a who calls herself a prophetess and teaches and deceives my servants to commit sexual immorality and to eat meat sacrificed to idols.b 21I gave her time to repent,a but she does not want to repent of her sexual immorality.b 22Look, I will throw her into a sickbeda and those who commit adultery with herb into great affliction.c Unless they repent of herA works, 23I will strike her children dead.a a Then all the churches will know that I am the one who examines minds and hearts,b and I will give to each of you according to your work
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In an Orwellian society, of course nothing is debatable; but here in my
country, the USA, everything is debatable; at least for the most part. There
is an element currently at work in my land which, if successful, will silence
all disagreement with official positions.
For example the California legislature recently passed a bill that would allow
the State to punish doctors for spreading what the State considers Covid
"disinformation" about vaccines and treatments.
* I suspect you have become infected with conceit, which may be roughly
defined as excessive self-appreciation of one's own worth or virtue. In other
words we're talking about hubris; which often indicates a loss of contact with
reality and an overestimation of one's own competence, accomplishments or
capabilities.
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In an Orwellian society, of course nothing is debatable; but here in my
country, the USA, everything is debatable; at least for the most part. There
is an element currently at work in my land which, if successful, will silence
all disagreement with official positions.
For example the California legislature recently passed a bill that would allow
the State to punish doctors for spreading what the State considers Covid
"disinformation" about vaccines and treatments.
* I suspect you have become infected with conceit, which may be roughly
defined as excessive self-appreciation of one's own worth or virtue. In other
words we're talking about hubris; which often indicates a loss of contact with
reality and an overestimation of one's own competence, accomplishments or
capabilities.
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Now; a forgiven fornicator is still a fornicator at heart; so even if they never
indulge in fornication ever again they will remain a fornicator. Well,
according to the Bible; sinners at heart are little different than sinners in
practice (e.g. Matt 5:27-28 & 1John 3:15) so what's to be done about that
seeing as how sinners in either heart or practice won't be allowed in the
kingdom of God?
Well; the remedy for this is just is simply a heart transplant so the fornicator
can leave this life 100% free of his malady.
• Ezek 36:24-27 . . I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit will I put
within you, and I will take away the heart of stone out of your flesh, and I
will give you a heart of flesh. And I will put My spirit within you and bring it
about that you will walk in My statutes and you will keep My ordinances and
do them.
That surgical procedure was originally promised to God's people but Gentiles
can have it too. (Gen 12:3, Isa 49:6, Eph 2:11-22, Col 2:11)
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Now; a forgiven fornicator is still a fornicator at heart; so even if they never
indulge in fornication ever again they will remain a fornicator. Well,
according to the Bible; sinners at heart are little different than sinners in
practice (e.g. Matt 5:27-28 & 1John 3:15) so what's to be done about that
seeing as how sinners in either heart or practice won't be allowed in the
kingdom of God?
Well; the remedy for this is just is simply a heart transplant so the fornicator
can leave this life 100% free of his malady.
• Ezek 36:24-27 . . I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit will I put
within you, and I will take away the heart of stone out of your flesh, and I
will give you a heart of flesh. And I will put My spirit within you and bring it
about that you will walk in My statutes and you will keep My ordinances and
do them.
That surgical procedure was originally promised to God's people but Gentiles
can have it too. (Gen 12:3, Isa 49:6, Eph 2:11-22, Col 2:11)
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