A KISSed History of Beliefs

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10. Christianity - Founded by Jesus & Paul c. 30-68 A.D. taught that God's love and plan of salvation includes everyone.
You may wanna correct this sergeant.
Paul didn't "create" anything.
 
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Now that we have reached the end of the HOB and constructed a pneumonic framework, let us consider the implications for our Christian faith.

For starters, we noted that secular histories of mankind commonly begin by describing polytheistic civilization in Mesopotamia the and Egypt. The first notable individual was Sargon c. 2270, who promulgated laws, some of which were similar to those of Moses. It was out of this culture that Abram was called to worship the one true God (monotheism) in Canaan (according to GN 12:1-2).

The question we should ask at this point is something like this: How (per Scripture, especially the NT) does God's POS apply to the rest of humanity other than a few people mentioned in Genesis account, including A&E, Noah's family and Abraham?
 

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The question we should ask at this point is something like this: How (per Scripture, especially the NT) does God's POS apply to the rest of humanity other than a few people mentioned in Genesis account, including A&E, Noah's family and Abraham?
Well, for starters we can begin with LAFTA worldwide. This way GPOFS is understood easier.
People will also feel more comfortable not being treated like they in the army barracks as well.:coffee:
 
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Well, for starters we can begin with LAFTA worldwide. This way GPOFS is understood easier.
People will also feel more comfortable not being treated like they in the army barracks as well.:coffee:
I am glad we agree that they were not SOL, so perhaps RM 1:20 is a good place to start--as it was in your case?
 

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I am glad we agree that they were not SOL, so perhaps RM 1:20 is a good place to start--as it was in your case?
I completely agree with you on this point but like i said, you won't have UA because that's how FW works.
Since the Creator respects that, it's best you do too. This is why DL exist.
 
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I completely agree with you on this point but like i said, you won't have UA because that's how FW works.
Since the Creator respects that, it's best you do too. This is why DL exist.
Well, UA is achieved one 50% agreement at a time if we look at the glass as half full, so I will suggest that the inner conscience is a natural or “common” sense (RM 2:14-16), which manifests morality or a moral Authority in every culture, including those existing around the world from A&E to Abraham. Was this also part of your reason for believing in God in Albania?
 

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Well, UA is achieved one 50% agreement at a time if we look at the glass as half full, so I will suggest that the inner conscience is a natural or “common” sense (RM 2:14-16), which manifests morality or a moral Authority in every culture, including those existing around the world from A&E to Abraham. Was this also part of your reason for believing in God in Albania?
Yes IWA with you 50% that this is the reason which lead me to God. RM 1:20.
 
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Yes IWA with you 50% that this is the reason which lead me to God. RM 1:20.
Okay, and meditating on the natural world or God’s supernatural work/creation per RM 1:20 combined with conscience per RM 2:14-16 comprise what is called general revelation, which reveals God’s eternal power and divine nature (love), serving as a provisional or proto-gospel proclaimed to everyone under heaven implicitly (CL 1:23, RM 10:13-18, GL 3:8), so that Paul says men are without excuse for choosing not to seek God.
 

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Okay, and meditating on the natural world or God’s supernatural work/creation per RM 1:20 combined with conscience per RM 2:14-16 comprise what is called general revelation, which reveals God’s eternal power and divine nature (love), serving as a provisional or proto-gospel proclaimed to everyone under heaven implicitly (CL 1:23, RM 10:13-18, GL 3:8), so that Paul says men are without excuse for choosing not to seek God.
AA!
 
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Okay then, gen rev explains the basis of the POS with regard to souls having access only to that mode of GW throughout history including in our era possibly.

The next questions regarding GRFS for those familiar with the teachings of Moses and of Jesus and the Apostles have obvious answers: the basis of divine salvation and judgment is whether or not such souls chose to believe them or rejected them.

Is there Scriptural warrant for saying this?
 

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Is there Scriptural warrant for saying this?
Gen 3.
And get this: this was before we were even SFG.
Of course DSOT have different interpretations of FW but we should be grateful for 50% agreement.
 
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Gen 3.
And get this: this was before we were even SFG.
Of course DSOT have different interpretations of FW but we should be grateful for 50% agreement.
Okay and I was thinking that the Parable of the Talents is applicable to this question.

With you I am happy with 1% more agreement today than yesterday!
 

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Okay and I was thinking that the Parable of the Talents is applicable to this question.

With you I am happy with 1% more agreement today than yesterday!
POT works too. But this is exactly why FW leads us into different paths in our own journey which doesn't require UA in minutia.
 
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POT works too. But this is exactly why FW leads us into different paths in our own journey which doesn't require UA in minutia.
Yes, which is why I repeatedly post the kerygma.

The POT indicates that God will judge people fairly/justly. Because perfect justice is not attained during this earthly existence, there is a resurrection and judgment (HB 9:27-28), when those who serve the Spirit of love (although imperfectly, PHP 3:12) are separated from demonic souls who do not even want to try to cooperate with the Holy Spirit (MT 25:31-46). Otherwise, there would be no ultimate justice and the entire biblical revelation would make no sense (1CR 15:14&19). If atheists/evil-doers remained unconscious after death, such ignorance would be relative bliss and morality would be nullified (ECC 2:12-17). Thus, hell (as a potential destiny) as well as heaven is good!

The horror of self-condemnation for serving Satan is this: apparently the misery of hell does not motivate genuine repentance. Thus, after just punishment has been meted out (cf. GL 6:7), God abandons people assigned to hell or second death (RV 20:6, RM 1:28-32), because they are hopelessly corrupt (JN 6:44). This destiny is eternal for anyone whose sins are infinite. For the rest, hell will end in destruction or non-existence per the following passages:

JN 17:12, “None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.”

RM 9:22, “What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction?”

GL 6:8a, “Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction.”

PHP 3:19a, “Their destiny is destruction.”

2THS 1:9a, “They will be punished with everlasting destruction.”

2PT 3:7, “By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.”