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That was James that said that.... quoted by @Lamar...... that is scriptural

This is just wrong, on every level. Applying English grammatical rules to Greek is one of the most "wrong headed" ways of "studying" scripture. Since you are "smarter" than the translators in a Greek/English online Bible, I'll let you argue with this screenshot of the scriptures in question...

Yeah, it kinda does say exactly that.... at least in the online Greek/English interlinear.... exactly in the order I showed you. Repent, be baptized, receive the Holy Spirit.... Which Greek translation are you using, that does not mention baptism? We are talking about Peter at...

wrong again..... faith, belief, obedience equals salvation. Would Noah's family have been saved if they had refused to get on the ark? Would God have saved them "anyway" ? What if an OT Jewish man refused to be circumcised? Would God have considered him to be in the covenant "anyway" ...

Um.... you sorta reversed the order in which it happened, at least according to Peter. Repent. Be baptized. You will receive the Holy Spirit. You keep trying to dance around it... trying to tweak it to fit your belief system.

paul said, if anyone teach another gospel.... Yes, he did. And Peter preached that gospel at Pentecost, and 3000 were baptized and added to the body of Christ. All the other "references" you guys post are AFTER Pentecost... you say "well, they didn't mention baptism HERE... or HERE...."...

It seems that many people go out of their way to explain why NOT to go to church. In my experience, it boils down to "they are not perfect enough for me" or "I don't get anything from it because of the pastor/singing/tithing/whatever..." What we seem to overlook is that "going to church"...

it's odd that ALL the writers of the 1st century knew that it was water baptism.... and even after the Nicodemus story there's.... 22 After these things Jesus and His disciples came into the land of Judea, and there He was spending time with them and baptizing. 23 John also was baptizing in...

James 2 19 You believe that [r]God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. 20 But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?

I suppose it might be a very vague form of fellowship.... more like pen pals. True fellowship needs face to face involvement... getting to know your fellow believers, just as you know your own family members... which is what we are. Doing that develops deep interactive relationships, leading...

Yes

and you know this.... how? Besides, they were before the institution of water baptism that included receiving the Spirt... which was after Jesus' death and resurrection... after Pentecost. Which of John's statements are you going to believe? In chapter 3, it plainly states that Jesus was...

You could carry that on to "believing".... that is also something we "do". Confessing is something we "do". Praying the so-called "sinner's prayer" is something we "do". Faith is about the only thing that is not "doing" something. You suspect incorrectly. I do not have the authority to...

Sorry... got sidetracked during response.... stand by

What we do, by being baptized is not a "work" to earn salvation, it is simply obedience to what God asks of us. As stated in scripture, it is an appeal to God for a clear conscience. It is no more a work than Naaman dipping in the Jordan... he was obeying God. It was, for lack of a better...

Please stop with the condescension.... "at least I admit...." Of COURSE belief comes before acting on it, otherwise there would BE no "acting on it".... good grief. Ephesians 2 is NOT a full, detail by detail description of how we are to be saved. It is simply stating that we come to...

You are sort of twisting things about.... we hear, are convicted in our hearts, believe in Jesus, and obey the command to be baptized. All of that is the event of being added to Christ's body of believers. Exactly the same way it happened at Pentecost.