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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    Maybe. But I’m not sure enough to definitely say “yes” or “no.” Knowing everything about the Holy Spirit is like trying to know everything about God. I don’t believe we can know it all in this life. That’s why we need to stick as close as we can to what the scriptures say. There are so many...
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    You are correct; I don’t agree with your definition of baptism. I believe Jesus set the example for us of what He meant by baptism when He let John the Baptist baptize him in the Jordan River. Do you believe that John’s baptism was water baptism? In John 3:23, the Spirit says that John was...
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    I agree with some of what you say. Psalms 119:160 says we are to take the “SUM” of God’s word —ALL of it is true. We are to “add it altogether (sum) and when we do, we have the Truth. Salvation, you are right, does not hinge on one verse. Salvation IS a ball with several aspects...
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    I suspect Peter's formula is obsolete because Jesus gave Paul a different message. He said: ● Rom 10:8-12 . .The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart, that is: the word of faith we are proclaiming: That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your...
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    Not at all. I am disagreeing with you that 1 Cor. 12:13 is talking about Holy Spirit baptism. And if it is not talking about Holy Spirit baptism, then the baptism in that verse is water baptism. The Holy Spirit—by the Spirit—leads us to be baptized into one body. We are not to assume the...
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    1 Cor. 12:13- “ By one Spirit we were all baptized into one body.” There are at least 25 scriptures scattered through out the New Testament that say “something” was done BY THE SPIRIT. Many, many things were done “by the Spirit.” By the Spirit the apostles were sent out. Acts 13:14 By the...
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    Good point! I had not thought of Saul.
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    Amen!! Good points.
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    True, but I still believe that Eph. 4:4 is talking about the only one baptism that saves us. Just as there are many gods—Buddha, many Hindu gods and goddesses but only ONE GOD that is the true God. that made the world , created mankind and saves us. As the scriptures say, there is no other...
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    Just commenting on the first 2 sentences in the last paragraph. Yes, the reason I believe that believers must be water baptized to be saved is because JESUS says that it takes faith AND baptism to be saved in Mark 16:16. Doesn’t that mean that “believers must be water baptized to be saved”...
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    Oops! I guess I spoke too soon. You know I can’t agree with salvation by Holy Spirit baptism. And those 3000 Jews on the day of Pentecost were from “all nations under heaven, verse 5. So, I don’t think they were baptized into a local congregation. Jesus said He added them to His church (...
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    I think we are in agreement on 1 Cor. 12:13. Not sure, though. Maybe we differ on some of the finer points. Like Acts 2:47 that says “The Lord added to the church those who were being saved.” So God adds people who are saved to His church. Galatians 3:27 says when we are baptized into Christ...
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    As I understand it, there is no English word for the Greek word “baptize.” ‘It simply means to “dip, plunge or immerse,” So in 1 Cor. 10, the picture is of the Israelites being “immersed” by the cloud and the sea; buried so to speak by the cloud and the sea. And yes, Noah did not get wet but...
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    Just a little confused about what you meant by 1 Cor. 12:30. It’s talking about gifts of healing and speaking in tongues. If there is a point there about baptism, I am missing it . I know we disagree about which baptism saves us—water baptism or Spirit baptism. In Isaiah, God says “Let us...
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    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    God has also promised the Spirit in other ways; not just in a miraculous baptism. We each receive the Spirit when we are water baptized into the name of Christ for the remission of our sins. Peter says we receive the Spirit as a “gift.” Acts 2:38. Galatians 3:13 is not a promise of miraculous...
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    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    If we look closely at the context—going all the way back to chapter 13, Jesus is with his 12 disciples. They have just eaten the Passover supper. They are together and Jesus is talking to them in chapters 13-16. There does not seem to be anyone else there—just Jesus and His disciples. In...
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    The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

    The five baptisms of the New Testament are. 1) The baptism of John, Mark 1:4 It was called a baptism of “repentance” and its purpose was to get the people ready for the coming of the Messiah. Matt. 3:3. 2). The baptism of suffering, Matt. 20:23, Luke 12:50. Jesus refers to His suffering and...
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    Another look at John 10.

    The reason WHY he repented is not the question. The question is, can a child of God lose his salvation. And this parable of the lost sheep teaches us that they can. If they couldn’t lose their salvation, then why does the Holy Spirit describe the sheep as “lost”? He would just be temporarily...
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    Saved by faith alone?

    I don’t believe “into” is the correct translation for Acts 2:38. It does not harmonize with any other scriptures on baptism or repentance. That is, unless you change them all.