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pardon me but you suggested one has to do that to accept your view: that we need to not believe the text as it is written, but 'look beyond that'

Job 1

it is an assumption based on there being no mention of it in the narrative, so, God not considering it something necessary for us to know, IOW, if it did happen, it wasn't significant to what happened to Sodom. about the angels, it does seem from the narrative that Lot had a habit of trying to...

Job 1

how much of the gospel can you intuit from 'he will bruise His heel, but He will crush his head'? Ephesians 3:8-9 To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, and to make all see what...

where else does God say this? Genesis 6:7 So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them."

because there are historically 3 views on this topic, and all three have been represented in this thread.

in the days of Noah there was a great evil happening on the earth that has not been seen since that time, and it had something to do with marriages which produced a very special kind of offspring which does not occur outside of the evil that was taking place. there are three general views of...

inconsistent with scripture. appointed to man once to die, then the judgement. the lake of fire created for the devil and his angels. only mormons believe you can be saved after you die - even they, only through intercessory baptism, not preaching. look carefully at the implications of what...

it's scripture, not "a weird idea"

they are spirit, and He created them

He is the same that made the promises. Israel is Christs inheritance, not salvation. He is that promise, our inheritance through faith, not genetics or ritual works.

"who left their first estate" is consistent with neither the religiously mixed nor racially mixed view

if sonhood is inherited from Adam, then both Cain and Seth are sons. if the chosen cannot mix with those outside, there is no salvation to the Gentile.

just citing scripture.

then angels are not excluded

in Luke 29:26-32, Jesus puts the situation at the time of the flood together with the situation in Sodom, which was also utterly destroyed there were not racially or religiously mixed marriages going on in Sodom, at least not worthy of mention, but the entire city was ready to attack the...

this does not not seem consistent with you saying anyone else is a son of God.

but Jacob didn't. proving my point about her. but look at her children - - she blows the religiously mixed view of Genesis 6 out of the water, no arguments possible.

hi :)