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i think i have been pretty consistent here. and i have been pretty consistently hated for not worshipping d. trump. i am consistently, immediately accused of all evil for not speaking sycophantly about him. please take 5 seconds min to reflect on the last 10 years.

in my opinion all of you who have involved yourself here in the last 10 years have no credibility as Christians. the BDF is where we talk about Christianity. the erstwhile 'news', nowadays propaganda section, is where we sell our souls. you're republicans. that is something quite different...

my dad is also swept up in the trump deception, like you. and with your post, you have also illustrated the depth of your depravity. this is not a Christian section of the forum. it is a secular government partisan fan club. i would like to affect that.

as i said, illustrative of the depths of the world's depravity.

amazing how you ascribe all this to anyone who doesn't kiss trump's toes

how on earth would answering that question clear anything up? is a person unsaved unless they voted for trump? are we that far gone?

but i know what you meant by this was, if i do not publicly confess faith in trump, you can't comprehend any other option except i must be a devil worshipper. .. which just speaks to the depth of the depravity of america these days.

agreed. i cannot in any way justify being a republican

I like how you laugh at this, @DeanM actually be informed? Ha! no way you're a christian why would you possibly care about the truth huh

oddly enough i am having an hard time finding a right wing propaganda outlet that @DeanM will believe, that reported at all on Fox admitting that they knew all along the whole "stolen election" story was baloney. wonder why.

in short, no. its fact.

or how about reading the court transcript for yourself? https://courts.delaware.gov/Opinions/Download.aspx?id=345820

how about if even Australia says exactly the same thing, because it's the truth? https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/murdoch-presenters-and-executives-admit-they-lie-to-you-routinely,17318

would it make you feel better to read exactly the same facts from a different source? https://www.axios.com/2023/02/27/rupert-murdoch-admits-fox-news-hosts-peddled-election-lies

in court, under oath, the owner of fox confessed that they knew trump's election-fraud story is a pack of lies, but pushed those lies anyway. Rupert Murdoch says Fox stars 'endorsed' lies about 2020. He chose not to stop them this man was elected on the basis of lies, by a right wing media...

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perhaps we should just simply ask this question: when troubled times come in your life, is it righteous to complain about how God is treating you? yes or no?

this thread is about Elihu, not about Job. same reason i haven't been saying nice things about Hosea in this thread.

i find it interesting how fertively you grasp at straws to find some way to condemn him, while scripture does not.

Job 37:1-2 At this also my heart trembles, And leaps from its place. Hear attentively the thunder of His voice, And the rumbling [that] comes from His mouth. he's not terrified. he isn't running from the sound of God's voice, but towards it - he says listen attentively, not flee. this reads...