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False, yes that's what I said, and yes, it is exactly what Jesus said. I was referring, as I said, to what Jesus said! I wasn't adding a thing to it, except to put it in my own words! Here is what Jesus said, that I was referring to: I said: "We must live the same way Jesus did." 1 John 2.6...

You never corrected me at all. Perhaps you are confusing me with someone else? You said: That may be your opinion, but it's not what the Word of God says. Matthew 16: 24 Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. 25...

No, I'm not. I'm defending myself against someone who apparently wishes to twist my words. I mentioned that we must "carry our cross." I said that because Jesus said that. But now you question what I mean by this? It means what it means! I added to the idea of carrying our cross by indicating...

Apparently you reject plain-speaking? I do have a problem with some, who cannot believe it when someone says, "The sun is rising." They think, "Surely, the person is poisonous and wishes to deceive me?" But all I can do is tell you, "The Sun is rising." You can accept it or reject it...

Not a problem. I'm just doing what I think the Lord wants me to do. Sometimes I'm right. Sometimes I'm wrong. I'm trying to listen...

I do *not* believe, brother, than once truly saved a person can lose his or her salvation. Genuine rebirth is for life! I hope that clarifies?

I have never said otherwise! You receive Salvation *by your own choice.* And after receiving Salvation, and after receiving the Holy Spirit, you determine Christ alone is the basis for your life. You live by the Spirit alone. All the works of the flesh are to be put under your feet--at least...

Just what it says. You commit yourself to living the same way Jesus did. With Jesus in our life we exhibit the same kind of good works he did, and so suffer rejection by both the world and the Devil.

You insist on framing my beliefs in an heretical way. Suit yourself--I've never said we contribute to our own atonement from sin. I've never said we helped Christ to bring about our own Salvation. What I do insist on, however, is that we must accept Christ, receive Christ, obey Christ, and deny...

Oh my goodness, it's a "light burden," brother! Don't let anybody tie you up in knots! It really doesn't matter when you get saved, just that you get saved. And you sound saved to me! A pure understanding of salvation begins *at* salvation. Don't think you're not saved already if you've already...

The Gospel is *both* a commitment and a gift. If you say it is not a commitment, you are deceiving others. Everything about the Gospel is a call to commitment, to carry one's cross. To deny that is to deny what Jesus said. You want to slur anything I say, whether it is biblical or not. You...

Before we get to the undesirable place of calling each other "false teachers," why don't we just admit that good Christians disagree on such things? Jesus coming in his glory can be viewed as appearing on the Mt. of Transfiguration, as rising from the dead, and appearing after his ascension in...

Luke 21.There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people.

Rom 1.17 For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.” What set the Gospel apart from the Law was the fulfillment of Christ, who enabled righteousness to last, from beginning...

suit yourself. I've quoted Scriptures and explained what I meant. If you want to continue to argue things I'm not saying, or split hairs over things that really aren't there, then I'm happy to see you go.

I'm afraid we're at odds on this, brother--we'll have to agree to disagree. I think there is some value to what you're saying, and I won't spend time explaining where we agree. But the major point we disagree on--I do believe Jesus was speaking of the generation of his apostles quite literally...

Yes, that's really the point I'm trying to make. Most churches focus their worship on one man--the pastor. Everybody else are sort of his acolytes. He will have someone read the Scriptures for him, or get him a glass of water. Worship leaders will entertain while he prepares to deliver his...

I'm not confusing salvation with sanctification--you are! This is a language issue. I spoke perfectly clear about what I meant, that *getting to heaven* is one thing, and *living for God* is another thing. Both are wrapped up in what the Bible calls "Salvation." I do recognize that in context...

This sounds like a contrdiction! I emphasize discipleship "too much," and then you emphasize a complete sacrifice? How can a complete sacrifice or intense discipleship be "over-emphasized?" By definition it is already at the highest degree of commitment! You seem to be looking for problems...

All good points. I really don't want to put too much on someone who is sharing the Gospel, but what good is a watered down Gospel in which people aren't sure of what the commitment entails? I want to see less top-heavy preaching where one pastor does all the teaching and more opportunities for...