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This is a bit insulting, that my motive is purely "to win." I do get what Paul said about letting some individual practices go. But Paul never said it was alright to teach Legalism in the church, including such things as "Christians must observe the Sabbath," or "Christians must get...

On the matter of legalism Paul allowed people the right to avoid eating meat offered to idols. This is not the same thing as giving license to Christians to observe the Sabbath or to get Circumcised *as a matter of law!* Paul had no problem with observing the Law, as a Christian, in a Jewish...

No, as I said, you raised an *excellent point,* whether we agree or not. By that I mean I'm sharing my view without the ability to fully argue the point. It's something I've had to dig into to ensure I'm saying things properly. I've dealt with this before, but still, I want to get the argument...

Blain, that was said so well! it's the very point I wished to convey, and you really helped to communicate that. Thanks so much! :)

I can see that you're just not getting my point, and I'll have to be more detailed. How one *personally* manages his or her life is *their business.* But when it comes to dictating how others live and what doctrine to teach, it is the matter of preserving *sound doctrine.* That is the teacher's...

It's actually a very good subject, and a great question. My point was, the *doctrine* that we are not under the Law needs to be told, whether or not it upsets the sensibilities of those "weak in faith." Their "weakness" does not dictate to teachers of the Gospel what they should teach. We are...

Col 2.16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day... 8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental...

That's true. I won't find fault if someone wants to stop working one day a week because he or she thinks God is pleased with that. But it's another thing in terms of allowing a Christian to teach error in the Church, that we are, in any way, still under the Law of Moses. The same person who...

Suit yourself, but this is not orthodox Christian teaching. The New Testament is just that--a New Testament. It is *not* the Old one. You can try to fit Sabbath laws into the New Testament. But the apostles didn't do that, nor do the NT Scriptures say that. But you're welcome to do what you...

That is false, and a pure assertion without proof. Nothing is more certain in the Bible than that God gave the Law to Israel to preserve a relationship between Israel and Himself! Exo 19.5 Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured...

You are only saved by the exclusive work of Christ's atonement. But you aren't going to get saved if you do nothing! 1) You have to accept Christ at the atonement for your sin. 2) You have to accept Christ's Spirit as the guide for your whole life. 3) You have to obey the call to live by the...

There is a major flaw in your thinking about the Law. You make the assumption that God's Law is dependent on the particular covenant of the Law of Moses. It isn't. God's Law preceded the Law of Moses. God's Law was there from the beginning when He required of Man that he live in God's image and...

I think you're making a mistake here, so let me try to untangle it, if I can. Yes, the Law was good, when it was in effect. It is in effect no longer. Certainly there is no Sabbath law. And certainly there is no Circumcision. The Law was given only to Israel, and Israel failed the contract of...

Awesome! Thanks Pilgrim! :)

AMEN! :)

God does not expect us to be perfect. But He does expect us to have a perfect standard, upon which to rely. Christ is that perfect standard, who has given us his Spirit. And if we live a life relying on that Spirit, it proves that we have accepted him as the right standard of righteousness. The...

Not to be concerned, Anthony. We're brothers just sharing opinions. We're both doing our best to serve the Lord. You know, my wife and I came to agreement on something tonight, that the best way to check somebody's character is to check their humility. It's true. Thanks.

You conveniently left out the very thing that they were asking about! They were asking *when* the destruction of the temple, stone by stone, would take place! Are you serious? Are you trying to make it sound as if the Disciples were only asking *when* Jesus would return? It's clear that Jesus...

No, the "birth pangs" were stated by Jesus to be wars, famines, pestilences, etc. that preceded the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. They were early warning signs, brought on by Israel's refusal to repent of their sins. Obviously, wars, famines, and earthquakes exist all through history. But God...

I just wish to say, I respect Pretribbers as Christians--I just don't respect their connection between their systematic theology and the Bible.