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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    And then we have you that denies election altogether.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I think you need to read Clement of Rome and some of the other ECF fathers again.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    That’s like saying non Calvinists are not semi pelagian in every sense The accusation of Gnosticism is a smear that non Calvinists use against Calvinists, and the accusation of semi pelagianism is a smear that Calvinists use against Non Calvinists It’s time to stop the smears and love one...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    We’re saved by Grace through faith alone, and after we believe and are saved, we are baptized in loving obedience to God. If we die as believers before baptism, we are surely saved. But I think every believer should seek to be baptized, urless circumstance somehow makes it impossible. ( like...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Have you checked his footnotes and bibliography against the sources he quotes and read the sources he quotes in context? If not, I would recommend it.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Why read secondary sources when many primary sources (which are better) are readily available ONLINE and for FREE.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I don't need to read secondary sources. I have all the primary sources I need. I can read Augustine, and I can read Calvin, and I can read Gnostics, those kinds of sources are available. I don't put much weight on secondary sources. People with PHD's say the virgin birth and the resurrection...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    the will of the flesh is the same as what? Not the things you listed.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    No, but if he said that the doctrine of election is gnostic, I don't want to read it. I have studied Gnosticism, so that's all I need to know.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    or of the will of the flesh...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    It's ridiculous and ludicrous for you to compare someone who is a Calvinist to a gnostic. That's kind of like comparing a non Calvinist to a Pelagian. Both are ridiculously unfair caricatures.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I don't really think you know what Gnostics were. Gnostics denied the humanity of Christ. Calvinists deny no such thing. Gnostics taught that matter was evil. Calvinists teach no such thing. I read you compare Calvinism to Manichaeism in another thread. That is a false equivelancy. Do you...
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    Was a lie told to Abraham ?

    Abraham did offer him. Hebrews 11:17.
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    When are we saved ?

    The door is there if we desire it.
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    When are we saved ?

    Yes. We should define our terms and allow others to define their terms without defining them for them Not directed at you.
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    When are we saved ?

    Yes. I think we should be able to discuss the Bible without people putting labels on us. Just because I believe in election, that does not make me a Calvinist and just because I believe in the effects of the fall doesn’t put me in a box either. The Bible teaches election and the Bible teaches...
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    When are we saved ?

    The question of ability/inability has to do with the effects of the fall on our ability to choose what is good. Including our ability to choose Jesus My position is that we can choose Jesus, bur that we will not want to apart from BOTH the gospel AND the drawing/convicting of the Spirit that...
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    When are we saved ?

    I used to have a very similar view to Molinism, and that was before I knew what it was. But my views on the matter have changed since then. I think that the relationship between Divine Soveriegnty and human freedom (human freedom is not absolute or autonomous) resists our attempts to neatly...
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    When are we saved ?

    Yes, correct. I did not say that their systems were identical in every respect. We’re talking about in only one aspect. You are discussing the relationship between Divine Soveriegnty and human freedom. That is not what I am referring to. I am merely referring to different views of the effect...
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    When are we saved ?

    Basic views on ability/inability Semi pelagians. Man needs nothing except to hear the Gospel to believe. Faith is something we do unassisted and of our own power Arminian. Man needs the Gospel and also to be drawn by the Spirit to believe. Spirit conviction and drawing. Calvinist. Man is...