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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    It’s not a yes or no question. It’s a when question. When did God decide to adopt you?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    You didnt answer the question Remember, we’ve been talking about election and predestination So when did God purpose in Himself to adopt you?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    When did God first know He was going to adopt you? You personally?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Did God know He was going to adopt you from eternity past? Yes or no?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Foreknown from eternity past, saved in time. Must have been foreknown (προγινωσκω) in eternity past. Otherwise, God does not see the future or only sees part of it. Open theism.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    So God knew from eternity past that we would be glorified, but did not predestine it? So basically, God knows things before He ordains them? Wow Who’s in control?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    You didnt answer the question. When did God chose your purpose and sphere of service? Seeing He knows all things from eternity past. If He knew your purpose, calling, and service from eternity past, doesn’t it follow He chose them in eternity past? Or did someone or something choose for...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Did God know He was going to adopt you from eternity past?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Seeing that God knew all things in eternity past, including our glorification, in light of that, you don’t think it was already predestined?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    This brings us to a problem. If God infallibly knows what He will choose , ( our service, purpose, and glorification, etc), but does not choose it until we choose, yet He already knows what we will choose... does that mean He chooses what has already been determined by something outside of Himself?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    When did God predestinate you unto glorification? When you were saved? So He did not have that in mind for you, when He knew in eternity past that you would be saved, and therefore also glorified? So it was foreknown by God, but not yet predestinated? So if God didn’t predestinate it, who...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Is electing synonomous with choosing? If so, did God know something infallibly aeons before He chose it? So He had infallible knowledge of all these things, but He did not choose them for aeons? So when did God choose your purpose and the service that He would call you to? He waited...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    When did God predestine you to be glorified? Countless eons after He already knew you were going to be glorified? I think not If God can see the future at a glance, He knew from eternity past that you would be saved, that you would be His child, what your purpose, calling and service would...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Did God know what your calling and service would be in eternity past? So then when did He predestinate our calling, service, and purpose? In eternity past.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Ok, so then He knew what He would call you to be and what your purpose was from infinity past too, right? Yes or no? For everyone, right?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Ok, good. So we agree that God from all eternity past knows who will believe and who will not? Yes? Simple yes or no please. I’m leading up to something.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    we don’t base our doctrine on what we think is most beneficial do we? I just liked and replied to an old post in the “ Not of Works thread”. It is very close to what I believe (not entirely, but close.). Go check it out.
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    ALL WHITES ARE RACISTS

    Her whole premise is itself racist.
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    Not By Works

    Well said.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    When does He find out who will believe and what His Calling is for them.