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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    And if God has perfect foreknowledge of all things, that includes those He will adopt. The knowledge in Gal. 4 is speaking of relationship. Not the same thing that I’m talking about.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Yes. God God could see the future before the fpundation of the world, just as He can now. If He couldn’t, that would amount to Him learning new things and increasing in knowledge. Does God increase in knowledge? That would imply imperfection in knowledge. Which is open theism So you are...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    That’s what elect means in 1 Peter 1:2 also?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I gave several scriptures to John 14:6. And you said you weren’t an open theist. To say that God has limited foreknowledge is open theism.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    So you don’t think God knows who’s going to be saved and who’s not, until they get saved or die lost That’s limiting God.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Ephesians 1:4-5 Romans 8:29-30 Isaiah 44:7- one of the evidences that God gives that there is no one like Him, is that He knows and can declare the future. Are you going to put limitations on this Divine Perfection? Isaiah 46:9-10 Isaiah 41:23
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Acts 15;18, not 8.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    He doesn’t know beforehand that you will be saved, and therefore adopted.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    So God didn’t know beforehand you would believe and therefore be adopted?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Keep reading.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Try Acts 15:18. What does it say?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    If you think God didn’t know we would be saved before we were saved, that is open theism. If you want scripture about Gods perfect foreknowledge, start in Isaiah 42 and read until you find the passages. I tthink it’s like chapters 42-46.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    What does this have to do with foreknowledge and predestination
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    So we weren’t predestined to be adopted until we believed. It logically follows He knew He was going to adopt us before He chose to adopt us. Interesting.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Red Herring alert!! Has nothing to do with what you’re replying to.
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Are you an open theist?
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    How does God know infallibly He’s going to do something ( like adopt us) before He makes a choice that He will indeed do it? So God knew infallibly that He was going to adopt us from eternity past, but He hadn’t decided ( chosen) whether He was going to do it or not. Lol
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    You said election is unto service and calling. And predestination is unto glorification To elect is to choose and to predestinate is to foreodain Chosen unto a purpose. Predestined to adoption/glorification But God didn’t choose or predestinate until we chose, according to you. So this...
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    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    God didn’t know He was going to adopt you until you were saved? So He didn’t know all things from eternity past. Open theism.