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    Justification is the judicial act when God declares a guilty sinner righteous.
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    But by whose righteousness were they justified?
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    But that has nothing to do with justification. If I agreed with you on this, I would still disagree with you on the basis of the OT Saints justification. But you are free to have your view Keep an open mind, though. I have ammended my beliefs and views many times when the scripture sheds...
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    So on what basis were they justified?
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    It cannot be their own righteousness, because our righteousnesses are filthy rags, and even at our best we miss the Mark completely, utterly, and hopelessly.
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    I have a different view on that eschatological issue, but I don’t want to detract. We agree fully with in our views on justification.
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    I’d like to hear his answer on this
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    That is debatable. That is speaking of David’s body, Peter was talking about his buried body in part or maybe in whole. I think. Either way, it has nothing to do with justification. When I die, my body will stay in the grave till the resurrection too
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    Amen Note. I did not mean to type imputed faith. That was a typo. Imputed righteousness through faith.
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    What they did not have was the permanent indwelling of the Holy Spirit. They were justified. Justification is not just forgiveness of sins. It is a positive righteousness credited that is not your own, but is the righteousness of God So if they did not have Christ’s righteousness, what...
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    If they do not have the righteousness of Christ, what righteousness do they have?
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    The faith itself is not enough to receive imputed righteousness without the work of Christ. It is the work of Christ that is our righteousness, not our faith. God counted his faith as righteousness. If he was justified by faith alone, it would not be sufficient. Christ’s work is the sufficient...
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    That’s why God sent His Son. God justified them based on what Christ WOULD do and He justified us based on what Christ HAS done. ( caps for emphasis)
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    Everything in the OT either reveals man’s sin and need of a Saviour or points forward to the work of our Saviour.
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    @ Guojing. Justification has always been “ declared righteous by a righteousness not your own, through faith.
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    Galatians 3:10. If you do not keep the Law completely and perfectly, you are cursed apart from imputed righteousness. That went for those OT Saints too
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    The purpose of the Old Testament sacrifices was to point forward to Christ, the Lamb slain from the foundation of the earth. God justified Old Testament believers on the basis of what Christ WOULD do. Do you not believe that the OT faithful were justified, or do you not understand...
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    There is a future tense of salvation (of the body) but there is also are present tense and a perfect tense aspects of salvation (salvation of the soul). 2 Timothy 1:9 Titus 3:5 1 John 5:13
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    Because if he didn’t, he would be lost.
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    Yes